Don't think so. Eggs and Baker not proven in that position yet. Last I checked Picket hasn't played a game yet. At the very least Houli becomes an awesome depth player. They have to knock him off his perch first though, he's playing out of his skin atm.
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Don't think so. Eggs and Baker not proven in that position yet. Last I checked Picket hasn't played a game yet. At the very least Houli becomes an awesome depth player. They have to knock him off his perch first though, he's playing out of his skin atm.
Bash b trundling along very nicely again this year. At his age the simple solution is to go year by year n wait till either the game passes him by, or one of the young pretenders does.
Houli has been a great recruit & whilst not always as strong as you’d like him to be defensively in a contest, gets a lot of the ball & generally uses it pretty well. If Ellis, goes I’d be happy for him to push for a wing in 2020.
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houli will get a one year deal on reasonable coin, the great man will see out his days at tigerland on his terms unless injury/s become an issue.
Neither are posts like this really (rational). Haters? Teenage girl language.
Most "detractors/doubters" are entitled to their opinion and most explain why.
As you point out he's a premiership hero who performed on the biggest stage on the biggest day. Will never be taken away. Doesn't mean his position or role or performance now can't be questioned.
It's fair though to bring up the point that the posters who said we could never win a premiership with Houli in the side (or similar comments) are the same ones potting him now and wanting him to retire despite his great form. I haven't always been a fan of Houli, there have been times where he hasn't performed well for periods of time, but right now he's in superb touch and deserves to be offered another year if that's his desire.
Straw man argument tigerlove, name the names of the posters concerned and your point will be valid.
I would be interested learning in who made those claims.
Houli on his current form deserves another year on his contract
I agree with Bill James that Houli put himself in harms ways on Sunday several times, he also hit up some great targets that had hurt factor on GWS.
I would be interested learning in who made those claims.
Houli on his current form deserves another year on his contract
I agree with Bill James that Houli put himself in harms ways on Sunday several times, he also hit up some great targets that had hurt factor on GWS.
So who are the most effective and impactful players?
There may not be an exact science to it, but the best way to work out the competition's most efficient metres gained players is to combine their own effective metres gained with their assisted metres gained.
By doing this, you are adding their individual effective work with what they have been able to set up for their teammates.
Without further ado, here's this year's top 10:
791m - Jake Lloyd (Sydney)
706m - Shannon Hurn (West Coast)
686m - Bachar Houli (Richmond)
659m - Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
654m - Daniel Rich (Brisbane)
644m - Lachie Whitfield (GWS)
641m - Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs)
618m - Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
617m - Zac Williams (GWS)
612m - Ricky Henderson (Hawthorn)
www.espn.com.au
Cant argue with that.
There may not be an exact science to it, but the best way to work out the competition's most efficient metres gained players is to combine their own effective metres gained with their assisted metres gained.
By doing this, you are adding their individual effective work with what they have been able to set up for their teammates.
Without further ado, here's this year's top 10:
791m - Jake Lloyd (Sydney)
706m - Shannon Hurn (West Coast)
686m - Bachar Houli (Richmond)
659m - Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
654m - Daniel Rich (Brisbane)
644m - Lachie Whitfield (GWS)
641m - Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs)
618m - Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
617m - Zac Williams (GWS)
612m - Ricky Henderson (Hawthorn)
Metres gained: Breaking down the AFL's most misunderstood statistic
'Metres gained' has become the sexy statistic that's synonymous with modern footy, but what does it mean and just how valuable is it? ESPN and Champion Data have joined forces to break down everything metres gained and explain what it all means.
Cant argue with that.
So who are the most effective and impactful players?
There may not be an exact science to it, but the best way to work out the competition's most efficient metres gained players is to combine their own effective metres gained with their assisted metres gained.
By doing this, you are adding their individual effective work with what they have been able to set up for their teammates.
Without further ado, here's this year's top 10:
791m - Jake Lloyd (Sydney)
706m - Shannon Hurn (West Coast)
686m - Bachar Houli (Richmond)
659m - Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
654m - Daniel Rich (Brisbane)
644m - Lachie Whitfield (GWS)
641m - Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs)
618m - Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
617m - Zac Williams (GWS)
612m - Ricky Henderson (Hawthorn)
Metres gained: Breaking down the AFL's most misunderstood statistic
'Metres gained' has become the sexy statistic that's synonymous with modern footy, but what does it mean and just how valuable is it? ESPN and Champion Data have joined forces to break down everything metres gained and explain what it all means.
Cant argue with that.
Neale doing a great job considering he is the only genuine inside mid in that list.
So who are the most effective and impactful players?
There may not be an exact science to it, but the best way to work out the competition's most efficient metres gained players is to combine their own effective metres gained with their assisted metres gained.
By doing this, you are adding their individual effective work with what they have been able to set up for their teammates.
Without further ado, here's this year's top 10:
791m - Jake Lloyd (Sydney)
706m - Shannon Hurn (West Coast)
686m - Bachar Houli (Richmond)
659m - Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
654m - Daniel Rich (Brisbane)
644m - Lachie Whitfield (GWS)
641m - Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs)
618m - Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
617m - Zac Williams (GWS)
612m - Ricky Henderson (Hawthorn)
Metres gained: Breaking down the AFL's most misunderstood statistic
'Metres gained' has become the sexy statistic that's synonymous with modern footy, but what does it mean and just how valuable is it? ESPN and Champion Data have joined forces to break down everything metres gained and explain what it all means.
Cant argue with that.
I reckon you can.
I like 'assisted metres gained' as a stat. It essentially shows how likely you are to put a team mate in a position to attack. It shows that you open up play.
But it doesn't make any sense to suggest that 'metres gained' is uselessly biased towards defenders (especially those who take kick outs), but then it into 'assisted metres gained'. What's the point in adding a biased set into another set?
I would actually quite like to see what the 'assisted metres gained' stats look like for our squad. IMO, assisted metres gained + metres gained is just as useless as metres gained.
Why strawman? Read back through the posts (pre premiership) and compare to some recent posts still potting Houli despite his good form. The names of posters will become clear. One name in particular is a little quiet right now I'm not here to name them I was just commenting on the discussion between MD Jazz and Baloo.
i dont reckon you can. cos i dont want you to.
like any stats, the usefullness is in the eye of the beholder.
