It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back.22nd Man said:So true. But there is no poltical will nor media ratings in making this the issue.
It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back.22nd Man said:So true. But there is no poltical will nor media ratings in making this the issue.
martyshire said:It depends. Do you think there will be reenactments of the first fleet in Botany Bay if AD were moved to some other date? I would have thought that by changing the date you also reduce the significance of that event, which is part of what causes the offence.
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I think Marty is referring to to the Bicentennial re-enactment 30 years ago.rosy3 said:Was there a first fleet reenactment this Australia Day? I haven't heard of it but reckon it would be pretty poor taste in this day and age. Thought we would have moved on from that kind of thing.
Brodders17 said:so you wont care if the date is changed?
tigertim said:I think Marty is referring to to the Bicentennial re-enactment 30 years ago.
tigertim said:There’s some irony that of Australia’s 650,000 indigenous people there’s about 4 I’ve heard say that Australia Day should change. I’ve heard from about the same number who say it should stay the same.
But I’ve heard from 100s of white Australians telling us what the indigenous want......
rosy3 said:Not particularly. Why do you ask me that? My posts indicate dates aren't important to me. I'd feel the same if there was a push to change Christmas Day from the 25th because not everyone is Christian. I just don't see it as addressing the problems. It would be like bandaids on an amputation going by the recent angst and comments. Far more important issues at hand than dates imo.
Do you agree with calls to abolish Australia Day celebrations altogether rather than change the date? What about changing the name of our country because it wasn't originally called Australia? What would those things solve?
The past will never change. We can all work towards a better future though. Sadly sometimes improvement needs to come from within too. There are a lot of negative messages and insults and accusations being hurled around.
Brodders17 said:i asked you because in your original posts you said you think the date should stay the same. you then said the date was irrelevant.
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Brodders17 said:the comparison is about as useful as many of those used in the marriage equality debate.
How so?Brodders17 said:unless you're Indigenous, i am sure there is some irony in that post.
your complaining about white australians telling you what indigenous australians think while you tell us what indigenous australians think.tigertim said:How so?
rosy3 said:Yep. I don't see the point in changing it at the moment. It's just a number that many have differing opinions about. It's not the main issue as far as I see it.
Do you agree with easy's comment that I was actually responding to in my post you quoted that the date is a red herring?
Gay marriage (another red herring) was more about equal rights and opportunities. Do you think having Australia day on Jan 26th results in inequality and lack of opportunity, and if so in what way?
You're stretching it a bit there but so be it.Brodders17 said:your complaining about white australians telling you what indigenous australians think while you tell us what indigenous australians think.
tigertim said:Whilst I’m just a racist white guy I was unimpressed with these comments:
“F--- Australia, hope it f-----g burns to the ground,” Invasion Day organiser Tarneen Onus-Williams said. “If you celebrate Australia Day, f---er, you’re celebrating the death of my ancestors.
thegdog said:Went to Yarrawonga for Aust Day celebrations and it was a breath of fresh air to see our Aussie pride rejoiced without political/minority crap. Beer, music, river, Aussie flag flying proudly. Get stuffed complaining minority and non appreciative foreigners, plenty of other countries for you to go and ruin
rosy3 said:I've read a few Aboriginal leaders calling for abolishing Australia Day altogether rather than changing dates. Saddened to read such bitterness. Concerned at the message it sends to future generations.
MB78 said:It’s true. Not sure how anyone can argue that.