We have played excellent footy at times in the last 3 weeks. Make no mistake about the Sydney game - they had a lot riding on it & got pantsed by us. Melbourne wanted to make a statement against us & came up short. Beating Adelaide at Adelaide & coming from 4 goals down with them scoring the last 2 to bring it back to 22 points is good in anyone's book. In all 3 games we have done something that we hadn't done before & that is, lock the ball in our forward half of the ground for extended periods. Not only that - on occasion we were very wasteful with the ball & still won all 3 games. Players like Rance & Vickery have developed extremely well. I am more glass half full than half empty for the first time in years.......................
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Are we the best team outside the 8?
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Brodders17 said:
Agree here. When we get more consistency we should beat PA, GC and Bris all the time. We can beat anyone from 6-14 but could also lose to any of them. Top 5 are out of our league. Next year we need to get competetive against those sides.
jimbob said:
Very good points. Everyone claiming meaningless wins is kidding themselves. Sydney would have missed a home final because of us if they hadnt beaten geelong. Melbourne always put the skis on against us and were still finals contenders until we ended their season. And we havent beaten Adelaide over their for 12 years and had an interim coach who desperately wants the real job.
jtigger said:
Sandilands against Graham, 43 to 12 hitouts - he did. Pavlich 30 plus. Mundy went well, Fyfe had a quieter one. After that - nothing and that really is my point. The game was still in the balance at 3/4 time, yet they had noting going on really. We had a ripper 4th and looked the goods finally. It was a win by a splendid margin, but they were as flat as roadkill.
We won, it was good, but really we struggled a lot of the game against inept opposition. We'll agree to disagree I guess JT - ancient history now ;D
I am struggling to think of a club in the AFL who will suffer LESS through the natural aging process and retirements than the Tigers. Take out Newman, who is arguably very replaceable, and our oldest core player is probably Delidio at 24.
It probably depends on your criteria. If the Tigers roll the Roos and take 9th, then on one measure they're undeniably the best team outside the 8, but on others they may not be. I keep hearing about how injuries have affected other teams, most notably the Dockers, although Richmond beat them at the MCG pretty convincingly before they had the massive injury list that has knocked them around so badly, they had some out, but nothing like the half side that is now on the sidelines. Richmond have also had some pretty significant injuries, mainly to the back six, they're mostly younger players, but this has affected development and forced Hardwick to pick players he'd rather not have selected, so they can play in adversity, too and have hopefully started to get some depth.
Based on percentages rather than wins North and the Dogs are ahead of us. Perhaps that's a better indication. But I see us as having more potential for development than either of those two in the next few years.
Firstly, who cares?
Secondly, probably not.
My gutfeel is that of our few wins, we mostly won against teams below us or on downers.
Some may say that maybe we caused the downers or that's a part of football, I have no answer to that.
Percentage, to me, is the key indicator of where we truly stand. If we'd finished outside the 8 with > 100%, I might have gone along with your notion.
However, at 86%, with both North & the Bullies with higher %ages, I would have to say no.
My thoughts won't change even if we beat North tomorrow. That is, unless we win by so much that our %age increases over 100%. But, I don't think that will happen.
For next season, the KPI that I'd be chasing would be a %age over over 100%.
That is, that we score more than our opposition scores against us.
If we can do that, week by week, I think the wins will look after themselves.
But, of course that's stating the obvious.
Secondly, probably not.
My gutfeel is that of our few wins, we mostly won against teams below us or on downers.
Some may say that maybe we caused the downers or that's a part of football, I have no answer to that.
Percentage, to me, is the key indicator of where we truly stand. If we'd finished outside the 8 with > 100%, I might have gone along with your notion.
However, at 86%, with both North & the Bullies with higher %ages, I would have to say no.
My thoughts won't change even if we beat North tomorrow. That is, unless we win by so much that our %age increases over 100%. But, I don't think that will happen.
For next season, the KPI that I'd be chasing would be a %age over over 100%.
That is, that we score more than our opposition scores against us.
If we can do that, week by week, I think the wins will look after themselves.
But, of course that's stating the obvious.
CarnTheTiges said:
Freo had a bad run in the pre-season that has continued practically all year long. They've had to play sore players, and bring others back when underdone. Cruelled.
Harry said:
saying we are as good as any team that missed the 8 does not equal saying we still dont need significant improvement.
