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Anthony Mundine
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I've always found it hard to separate the sportperson from the person. I can tell you, I'd never support a Richmond player who said this:
"I believe it's a choice, everything is a choice...if you are going to be gay, do it behind closed doors, that is how it used to be."
"If we were to live in a society, just like in Aboriginal culture, that homosexuality is forbidden and you do it and the consequences are capital punishment or death, you think you are going to do it? Or think twice about doing it? Hell no.
"That's the only way to deter the problem... they're not going to be happy until they have primary school kids being gay."
"I believe it's a choice, everything is a choice...if you are going to be gay, do it behind closed doors, that is how it used to be."
"If we were to live in a society, just like in Aboriginal culture, that homosexuality is forbidden and you do it and the consequences are capital punishment or death, you think you are going to do it? Or think twice about doing it? Hell no.
"That's the only way to deter the problem... they're not going to be happy until they have primary school kids being gay."
This country enabled him to become rich? The country that stole the land from his ancestors, that abused, murdered, raped, beat, neglected and tried to eliminate his people? That country? That country helped him? Anthony Mundine's success is despite this country, not thanks to it. It's thanks to him.LeeToRainesToRoach said:
He didn't stand for the anthem, who gives a *smile*. Why would he? How could he? Besides, it's a sh!t song, and patriotism is ignorance wrapped in *smile*.
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easy_tiger
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spook said:
Yeah, this country gave him the opportunity to achieve. Yeah, he got off his arse and did it himself. As everyone else has the opportunity to do. If some elect not to, it ain't anyone else's fault. Nobody's holding anyone back.
You're claiming a policy of genocide, which is an almighty stretch even by lefty standards.
I tend to agree on this point. When I was a primary school kid in the 1980s-90s, my recollection is that we were a much more carefree and apathetic country. I never remember ever singing the National anthem at school assembly. ANZAC Day was essentially just a solumn day of Remembrance. Etc. Now all this stuff is pumped up and practiced with such mindless, pumped up, pseudo-religious reverence. I certainly see it with my kid’s school events.spook said:
And this trend doesn’t just come from the right side of the political spectrum either. As a counterweight, we have this garbage acknowledgement of country protocol, that every possible event seems to have to start with. Again mindless, quasi-religion as far as i’m concerned.
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easy_tiger
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LeeToRainesToRoach said:
A policy of genoocide is not a big stretch. A lot of smart people say it happened, plenty of evidence to back them up. It might not have been consistently or have been applied across every regime and region at the same time, but there is plenty of evidence that it reared its head on and off in different regions, I shake my head whenever anyone carries on as if its a crazy claim, that's crazy. The native police in Queensland? look it up. Homesteads in Queensland that nailed murdered black peoples ears to the walls of their entrance halls? It happened. Massacres all over the country in response to petty offences? Nah, the idea that the colonists tried to systematically wipe out black? crazy idea. Kind of makes me feel uncomfortable, therefore it must not have happened. That is the logic at work here.
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easy_tiger
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tigersnake said:
The Myall Creek Massacre, which is the only massacre in our history with a court transcript (so its as close to historical fact as you can get, better than photos)
tells how the white fellas rode down on a mob of aboriginals, and lured the young, strong, fit and feisty men away from the main party.
Yeah, the ones just like Anthony Mundine, were drafted off
with the promise of work and meat and stuff. Then they bludgeoned all the women and kids and old blokes to death.
Just a spot of genocide.
So, you can see, white fellas wariness of the uppity blacks, the ones like chocco and goodesy, goes back to the very beginning of our history.
Oh, and they didn't bludgeon one 17 year old girl. They raped her to death over the next 3 days.
so,
Australians all let us rejoice
So one bonafide documented case of 30 aboriginals being murdered is enough to justify the claim of genocide? There were what over half a million aboriginals in 1788? Seems the evidence is a wee bit light on.
Yeah having to go to all the effort to make rational arguments is such a drag brahtigersnake said:
Giardiasis said:
30 blacks killed have bona fides. Pretty rational stuff. But as usual, don't let me slow you down.
So 0.004% of a population are murdered = genocide? Perhaps you need to learn what rational means?tigersnake said:
tigersnake said:
The only thing at work is a working knowledge of Australian history. Even rabid lefties back off at the suggestion. You lot have stepped in over your heads with this, not unlike Mundine when up against the top shelf.
