And yet, even when the mere mention of “better laws” come up, they are up in arms (pun unintended) about infringing their constitutional rights
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America, will they ever learn? (Gun Control Debate)
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Texans are *smile*. A lot of other states can’t stand them, wish they were still part of Mexico, and would be happy for them to secede.
Guns certainly don't kill all by themselves, they're just tools. They are however extremely efficient and effective tools for helping *smile* wit people kill *smile* loads of other people in a big hurry.
Who needs birth control to help keep the population at manageable levels when you have Uzi's, AK 47's, Howitzers or whatever else turns the nut jobs on.
Happy 4th July, America
16 mass shootings on Independance Day
www.theguardian.com
16 mass shootings on Independance Day
Fourth of July overshadowed by 16 mass shootings across US
Fifteen people were killed and 94 injured across 13 states as well as Washington DC
Independence Day. A day of celebration, fireworks and mass killings.Happy 4th July, America
16 mass shootings on Independance Day
Fourth of July overshadowed by 16 mass shootings across US
Fifteen people were killed and 94 injured across 13 states as well as Washington DC
Lets hope that the politicians thoughts and prayers stop the next lot of mass shootings, because they’ve worked fine up until now. Who needs laws
No its ok, they sleep soundly knowing that a good guy with a gun will come along and stop the bad guy with a gun as that happens all the tim..............................................oh hang on.
Yep. Like this guy
Jury Acquits Deputy Who Failed to Confront Parkland Gunman (Published 2023)
Scot Peterson was found not guilty of child neglect, culpable negligence and perjury in a rare trial over police inaction in a school shooting.
what would be worse would be sending your kids off to school every day wondering if they'll come home
at some point you would think that this is not right, not acceptable.
but it seems most of the community just accept that the metal detectors, security guards, see through back packs and live shooter drills are enough to protect them.
people don't really have a choice. some may choose to home school but that obviously has its own consequences.
leaving the country would only be the option of the very well off - and that means leaving friends/family etc. too and being willing to start in a new place
Prosecutor made the mistake of thinking police are to protect the public. They are to protect property.Yep. Like this guy
Jury Acquits Deputy Who Failed to Confront Parkland Gunman (Published 2023)
Scot Peterson was found not guilty of child neglect, culpable negligence and perjury in a rare trial over police inaction in a school shooting.www.nytimes.com
they have a choice to vote for law makers who will introduce stricter gun control laws.
but Right to Bear Arms and all that
Just a point to give some context around gun circulation and ownership in the US.
There are 120 guns per 100 people in the US. The next most saturated countries for guns in circulation are places like Serbia, Bosnia, Yemen, Syria and alike that have swarms of military grade weaponry floating around the place from relatively recent (or still occurring) horribly, brutal conflicts. But even these countries are well short of the US, with high 30s or low 40s per 100 people. The US is an absolute outlier. I cannot emphasise how obscenely so, that they are an outlier in such data.
Of the estimated 390mil odd firearms in civilian circulation in the US, only 0.003% are registered.
Around 32% of Americans indicate owning a firearm, 44% indicate living in a house with a firearm. If only 32% of the population are participating in the possession of 120 guns per 100 people, how many does the gun owning class actually possess each? It's around 3-4 guns each for this 32%. Pretty mind boggling numbers.
There are 120 guns per 100 people in the US. The next most saturated countries for guns in circulation are places like Serbia, Bosnia, Yemen, Syria and alike that have swarms of military grade weaponry floating around the place from relatively recent (or still occurring) horribly, brutal conflicts. But even these countries are well short of the US, with high 30s or low 40s per 100 people. The US is an absolute outlier. I cannot emphasise how obscenely so, that they are an outlier in such data.
Of the estimated 390mil odd firearms in civilian circulation in the US, only 0.003% are registered.
Around 32% of Americans indicate owning a firearm, 44% indicate living in a house with a firearm. If only 32% of the population are participating in the possession of 120 guns per 100 people, how many does the gun owning class actually possess each? It's around 3-4 guns each for this 32%. Pretty mind boggling numbers.
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Thinking about it, of those 32% that are part of the gun owning class, one might assume a lot probably only own one. So a whole heap likely own five or more. In fact, I remember reading that something like 3% of the population (around 10-11mil) own 150 million odd guns between them. Just bizarre.
Places like Canada and NZ have 35 and 26 guns per 100 people respectively (Canada considered quite high by global standards, yet dwarfed by their southern neighbour). We were likely of a similar level to Canada or NZ prior to 1996, but now only have just over half per capita of what NZ has.
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In a macro as a country view I agree.
As a parent with a kid about to go to school (who wanted things changed) - your response would be like victim blaming.
We can see what happens here.
The sad thing is about proposed gun laws now and in the past over there, an overwhelming majority of the proposals seem like common sense and sensible to us and a vast majority in the civilized world, but over there…………
WTF?
My original post was about how horrible it would be as a parent in America sending their kids to school every day wondering if they’d be a victim of a mass shouting.
You said they had no choice, but they have a choice to vote for representatives who will bring in stricter gun control laws.
How the *smile* do you equate an argument for voting for gun control laws with blaming kids who have been murdered in their school???
Pretty offensive imo
Settle.
I’m saying an individual parent doesn’t have that level of influence.
I agree with you in a macro sense.
I never said they did. I was talking about a nation as a whole voting for gun control over their right to bear arms.
Far from victim blaming.
