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911 Truth Movement

Do you think the US government should hold an independent investigation into the events surrounding


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TigerForce said:
As for what happened on 9/11, I sit somewhere near the fence and still see it as an 'insie job' on the basis that a lot of specific questions still remain virtually unanswered. I'm sure Patsy's highlighted those several times in his thesis-style posting ( ;D) and the latest one being why the mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed's trial keeps procrastinating (now we wait until 2016 for some reason). He was captured in 2003 and we still wait.....

Cheers Forcemeat. :)

On KSM - no one commented on this at the time although it's a pretty interesting point IMO.

Disco08 said:
Interesting in this context is Bush's faux pas. How would any al Qaeda operative get inside any US building to plant explosives without help? How could al Qaeda possibly get enough operatives inside a US building to plant enough explosives to ensure people above the explosives couldn't escape? Why would Khalid Sheikh Mohammed tell any American any of this?

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=william_rodriguez
 
gotta hand it to Disco, he's like a wounded buffalo with 5-6 lions on his back, biting and digging their claws in, persisting on his path without playing the man. hat's off.
 
TigerForce said:
and the latest one being why the mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed's trial keeps procrastinating (now we wait until 2016 for some reason). He was captured in 2003 and we still wait.....
that's quite interesting. I must confess I didn't know that.
 
Disco08 said:
You're misunderstanding the point. I'm not saying "gosh darn it I'm just simple folks and don't understand all this conspiracy mumbo-jumbo". I'm saying I have no way of knowing how many people had to be involved if in reality all three towers were demolished. Beyond Larry and a demo team anyway.

It's you guys who are making those assertions and I don't see it as a reason to ignore or dismiss other interesting points.

Now, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

Larry and a demo team could have done it, sure. But aren't you forgetting one tiny detail? Let me remind you.

THE TWO FREAKIN' PLANES THAT CRASHED INTO THE BUILDINGS ON THE EXACT SAME DAY THAT LARRY PRESSED DOWN ON THE DETONATOR WILE E. COYOTE STYLE

Pure coincidence and nothing to do with Larry's little self-contained plot, I'm sure.
 
See. Never seen you post in all caps either.

Larry and Lew have obvious connections to people in the Bush regime. For a start George's brother but there's more. They're also principles at the WTC. Bush gives them the tip that al Qaeda is going to fly planes into the twin towers on 9/11 and leaves it at that. The government has nothing to do with the controlled demos or the plan to cash in on the attack.

Why would you lease buildings full of asbestos anyway?

http://rense.com/general81/bushislv.htm
 
evo said:
that's quite interesting. I must confess I didn't know that.

And it's Obama time now not Bush.

[youtube=560,315] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENulG-ZYaWU [/youtube]
 
So you ain't into conspiracy theories but...

Disco08 said:
Larry and Lew have obvious connections to people in the Bush regime. For a start George's brother but there's more. They're also principles at the WTC. Bush gives them the tip that al Qaeda is going to fly planes into the twin towers on 9/11 and leaves it at that. The government has nothing to do with the controlled demos or the plan to cash in on the attack.

OK, you go with that then.
 
So you bring up the massive/complex conspiracy conundrum. You ask me to remind you of the simpler possibility which you ignored in conversation not long ago and when I post it you confuse it for me asserting conspiracy and mock me for being a hypocrite. It's just affection though right? :hihi

As a simple possibility, what's wrong with it?
 
Disco08 said:
Why would you lease buildings full of asbestos anyway?
meh. I just pulled down a house i'd been living in for the last decade, there was asbestos everywhere.

It's not dangerous unless you disturb it.

Hey wait a minute. Larry WAS planning on disturbing it. He's doubly a cad!
 
TigerForce said:
And it's Obama time now not Bush.
the weirdest thing about Obama and this whole saga was the way the dealt with Bin Laden after they caught him.

Spend a decade and mucho dinero hunting enemy no1 and when they finally find him rather than gloating his body is hurredly whisked away and dumped at sea
 
evo said:
the weirdest thing about Obama and this whole saga was the way the dealt with Bin Laden after they caught him.

Spend a decade and mucho dinero hunting enemy no1 and when they finally find him rather than gloating his body is hurredly whisked away and dumped at sea

Yeah, a different procedure with poor ol' Saddam hey?
 
evo said:
the weirdest thing about Obama and this whole saga was the way the dealt with Bin Laden after they caught him.

Spend a decade and mucho dinero hunting enemy no1 and when they finally find him rather than gloating his body is hurredly whisked away and dumped at sea

Did anyone actually see his body?
 
Freezer said:
Did anyone actually see his body?

Oh, dear. Please, don't.

Nice account by OBL's killer in Esquire. Sad aftermath. Broken marriage, no pension. Expect him to get a flow of donations to help him out.
 
TigerForce said:
And it's Obama time now not Bush.

[youtube=560,315] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENulG-ZYaWU [/youtube]
The American justice system is about the accused trying to prove their innocence? I thought it was about distraction from the truth and confusing the issue to allow the guilty to go free. Defence lawyers will do anything to not allow the truth to be told.

And governments are no better.

Reading through bits and pieces of this thread there are definitely a whole bunch of questions that deserve answers. Sadly those answers will never be given. One thing that is fact is that governments do and will, from time time, kill for gain. Corporations do it illegally and legally under permission from governments who sometimes benefit financially from these deaths.

Greed motivates individuals to do horrific things to their fellow humans without conscience. Many powerful and wealthy individuals benefitted from the obnoxiously titled "War on terror."

What will a government do to make money? Almost anything as long as they think they can get away with it.
 
I had a scroll through this thread cause its been going off and i thought it must be good

FWIW, its not, and I cant work out what anyones point of view is.

Carry on.
 
Disco08 said:
Pantera's unstoppable when he's got the upper hand. Just railroads his oppenents. In this debate he's hardly made a point or objection except to pass judgment on my method of debate.

Somewhat ironic statement. :)

If you go back over my posts in this thread, I think there is fair bit more to them than just pointing out the flaws in your debating style. Do you disagree? You still haven't pointed out to me why the flaws in the OR haven't been debated in a reputable engineering or scientific journal. For someone who has appealed to the lack of scientific merit in the official position, the method of disseminating the troofers position through websites, youtube vids and self-published journals is about as anti-scientific as it gets.

As for your allusion in the above sentence that I am "unstoppable" when I have the upper hand and therefore my position isn't as strong in this thread. Two things in regards to that. Firstly, I have come and gone from this thread, raising questions when I have the time and pointing out inconsistencies where I see them. I don't have as much time to spend on it, hence my occasional appearances. Secondly, and more importantly, my area of expertise is in biology, so I am much more comfortable providing a strong opinion that can be backed up on a thread like evolution vs creationism. I don't pretend to be an expert in engineering and rely on actual experts to explain these things. This is why the peer-reviewed literature is such an important source of information and is my first source of information in these situations. The complete lack of support for your side from that source is telling (as I've mentioned before).
 
tigergollywog said:
I had a scroll through this thread cause its been going off and i thought it must be good

FWIW, its not, and I cant work out what anyones point of view is.

Carry on.

Despite the very real possibility that a 120 metre catapult could have been stealthily assembled at a secret launching pad in Staten island by foreign students enrolled in roman military history courses with no 2nd term electives chosen, don’t fall for the big ball theory like I did.
 
glantone said:
Despite the very real possibility that a 120 metre catapult could have been stealthily assembled at a secret launching pad in Staten island by foreign students enrolled in roman military history courses with no 2nd term electives chosen, don’t fall for the big ball theory like I did.

Thanks for the tip GT.