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2017 AGM
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Re: 2017 EGM Constitutional Changes (again)
The fact is that the executive were at best amateur and at worst behaved in a shonky manner leading into the 2016 AGM. The election process was flawed and manipulated to acquire a favourable outcome for the Board.
Michael Stahl remained silent on issues surrounding the partisan promotion of incumbent candidates and the reproduction and handling of proxies on matters of significance to members and the club. In my opinion he failed in his responsibility to oversee a fair election process. There is absolutely no worthy reason to change the EGM requirement. This matter has already been voted on and those members that could be bothered to wipe the sleep from their eyes voted it down.
Redan, I will send you my proxy again for the AGM this year. I appreciate your efforts. Here's hoping that Mr Stahl can get the proxy format right and that members who wish to vote are given access to the correct form and that their proxies aren't lost or go missing.
Here we go again. Last year we had the sock dude now we have 14 post Mitch popping up to spruik for the Board.Tiger_mitch said:
The fact is that the executive were at best amateur and at worst behaved in a shonky manner leading into the 2016 AGM. The election process was flawed and manipulated to acquire a favourable outcome for the Board.
Michael Stahl remained silent on issues surrounding the partisan promotion of incumbent candidates and the reproduction and handling of proxies on matters of significance to members and the club. In my opinion he failed in his responsibility to oversee a fair election process. There is absolutely no worthy reason to change the EGM requirement. This matter has already been voted on and those members that could be bothered to wipe the sleep from their eyes voted it down.
Redan, I will send you my proxy again for the AGM this year. I appreciate your efforts. Here's hoping that Mr Stahl can get the proxy format right and that members who wish to vote are given access to the correct form and that their proxies aren't lost or go missing.
It doesn’t entitle vfl players to life membership, that wording refers to when the afl was previously the vfl, the changes give afl premiership players life membership nothing to do with our vfl seconds.RedanTiger said:
Re: 2017 EGM Constitutional Changes (again)
How exactly wasn’t it a fair election? Those who nominated for positions got less votes then Dunn and the other board member going up for re election as simple as that. If people nominated this year once again current members would go up for election, no one nominated. You obviously have issues with the board which hey more power to you, but the board you seem to complain about on a constant basis did just bring you a flag. I should note I have no issue with people rejecting the 5% change I understand there reasons.tommystigers said:
Re: 2017 EGM Constitutional Changes (again)
The Club also provided three different proxy forms for voting and failed to publicly clarify which forms were valid or void for the AGM.
My issue with the board revolves around transparency and the erosion of members rights. Candidates have no chance for election under the current process and the constant use of the appointment loophole. It's all good though, we won the Premiership and will never have to worry about our board and its directors ever again.
There were favourable and well timed publicity opportunities provided by the Club to the incumbents that were denied to the challengers. Articles on the Club website promoting the incumbents also contained direct links for voting. Some of the incumbent promotion material endorsed by the Club ignored election guidelines that were applied to the challengers. Search through the threads on last years election to see these outlined in detail.Tiger_mitch said:
The Club also provided three different proxy forms for voting and failed to publicly clarify which forms were valid or void for the AGM.
My issue with the board revolves around transparency and the erosion of members rights. Candidates have no chance for election under the current process and the constant use of the appointment loophole. It's all good though, we won the Premiership and will never have to worry about our board and its directors ever again.
Re: 2017 EGM Constitutional Changes (again)
Say hello to Texas Pink Socks Boots (He was a ripper with all his FFS) & a few of the others that suddenly jumping on board to spread the news and argue with nah sayers.
Don't play this site for fools
How about those proxy forms "actually" get emailed on time. Person read my email (got confirmation via outlook) then I got squat ! Still waiting
Tiger_mitch said:
Say hello to Texas Pink Socks Boots (He was a ripper with all his FFS) & a few of the others that suddenly jumping on board to spread the news and argue with nah sayers.
Don't play this site for fools
How about those proxy forms "actually" get emailed on time. Person read my email (got confirmation via outlook) then I got squat ! Still waiting
Re: 2017 EGM Constitutional Changes (again)
my account was created in October last year, i have actually posted a few times throughout the year fyi.Al Bundy said:
Read the actual clauses.Tiger_mitch said:
It specifically says "VFL/AFL".
These are (since 1996) two different competitions.
The wording does NOT refer to a previous incarnation of the AFL.
The "VFL seconds" does not exist. It was previously the "Development League" and IIIRC has now ceased.
Despite what you or anyone may think wording in the Constitution means, it is read in an absolutely literal sense. I refer you to the current Citizenship "crisis" at the top of Australian politics.
Former VFL premiership players involved in a single win are being awarded Life Memberships, within the Boards right to award them. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2017-08-24/life-honour-for-wa-tigers
The inclusion of VFL is thus redundant in a clause being changed in 2017, unless the intent is to reward future VFL players.
I note you have not mentioned the DELETION of the clause rewarding 100 games players.
Do you believe that players like Rioli, Free, Richardson, Knights and Deledio are not ENTITLED to Life Membership but only at the DISCRETION of the board?
Can guarantee you this has nothing to do with non listed vfl players being eligible for life membership, that just isn’t the case the club will tell you the same thing. And being part of a premiership team is more valuable then 100 games in my eyes so no issue with that change. The board would still have room to award those players life membership anyway at there discretion anyway. 100 games isn’t that significant in the afl landscape these days.RedanTiger said:
They wouldn’t. Redden tiger is just over thinking and reading in to things that aren’t the case.tigertim said:
tigertim said:
Because they would be VFL Premiership players.
New Clause 3.3.2(b) to be inserted reads:
"(b) a VFL/AFL premiership player: or
(c) [deliberately left blank]"
Re: 2017 EGM Constitutional Changes (again)
Listen pal. I know my way around boards. Constitutions, and the law. *smile* off. I've stated my view. You don't agree, do whatever you want.
lamb22 said:
Listen pal. I know my way around boards. Constitutions, and the law. *smile* off. I've stated my view. You don't agree, do whatever you want.
