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When did the AFL start hating Richmond?
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A lot of the people running the AFL over the last 20 years grew up when we were dominant. 1967-1980 was a fair run. Just like the run the cats have been on since 2007 and we can all relate to how much we hate them. Maybe in ten years the people running the show might feel sorry for us because they grew up in the 80s and 90s.
To me the fact the AFL reacted so strongly to our naughty behaviour but not so strongly to other clubs naughty behaviour was more proof they hate us, rather than a reason for hating us.
Totally agree Hocking fked Richmond with that *smile* stand rule.
To answer the question for me, winning the 3 Flags is when it started.
Really got up City Hall's nose.
They keep banging on about equalization of comp, the way the draft is structured, salary cap, soft cap etc, etc.
They don't like Dynasty Teams.
Then factor in the 3am Souva gate excursion of Cujo and Syd A Knee during the height of lockdowns/hubs.
Our un-sociable in your face style of footy with guarding the mark etc.
They got the big stick out.
Dynasty over.
Really got up City Hall's nose.
They keep banging on about equalization of comp, the way the draft is structured, salary cap, soft cap etc, etc.
They don't like Dynasty Teams.
Then factor in the 3am Souva gate excursion of Cujo and Syd A Knee during the height of lockdowns/hubs.
Our un-sociable in your face style of footy with guarding the mark etc.
They got the big stick out.
Dynasty over.
There is a photo of Gil and Shocking after the 2020 GF, they didn't look happy.
May 2, 1908. Our very first game in the then VFL. We won our first game and the establishment still haven’t forgotten or forgiven
1860 - rules ignored to disadvantage Richmond. HCA Harrisson was the Melbourne captain and wrote many of the laws...
It's baked into the DNA.
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Bouncing the ball
Rule 6 of the rules drawn up in 1859 state that the ball should be bounced every 10 or 20 yards (9.14 to 18.29 metres). However, in the first few seasons there appears to have been an agreement between the clubs not to allow any running with the ball. This was mainly an attempt to curb H.C.A. Harrison who ran with great speed, carrying the ball Rugby style. Nevertheless, it is known that the agreement was sometimes ignored, such as during the Melbourne v Richmond game on 5 June 1860 and a Royal Park v Melbourne game in 1863. The latter led to the rule about bouncing being more strictly observed. When the rules were redrawn in 1866, the distance between bounces was reduced to a flat 10 yards.==
H. C. A. Harrison - Wikipedia
I’d like to agree with you, but I don’t think that’s true. We received fairer fixturing in 2018 and 2019. Cornes still carries on about those consecutive games at the MCG in 2019.
The screwing over didn’t begin until 2020. Maybe the GWS flogging in 2019 was a factor, but the antics in the hub was likely the cause.
The 6-6-6 rule did come in in 2019. Stand rule came in after the 2020 flag. Steve Hocking joined Geelong 12 months later.
I acknowledge the umpiring issue started in 2017, but I reckon a lot of that is our own fault for not standing up to it.
Further to 2020, one get the sense that Geelong thought that flag was *theirs* and we took it from them. Or rather, Dusty did.
I recall an interview with Harry Taylor afterwards, where he basically said as much: Dusty took his flag. Eat sh1t!
It truly warms my heart to think we f*cked with their heads as much as we apparently did. Genghis was right. "The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters."
So yeah, they changed the rules, got their asterisk flag. But they can't take our three in four years away.
Sorry for the gin-fuelled rant!
I recall an interview with Harry Taylor afterwards, where he basically said as much: Dusty took his flag. Eat sh1t!
It truly warms my heart to think we f*cked with their heads as much as we apparently did. Genghis was right. "The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters."
So yeah, they changed the rules, got their asterisk flag. But they can't take our three in four years away.
Sorry for the gin-fuelled rant!
The fixtures in 2019 ended up with 7 games at the G, at the expense of a much harder start to the year. That could have backfired and had our season over before we got that benefit.
We played, Collingwood, Melbourne, GWS and Port twice. Carlton was the soft team we played twice.
I think it could have been harder, but the "ease" is overstated too.
Remember the Port win in Adelaide? Lynch the boss. Kornes said 'not a hope in hell' would we win. Great memories.
If this was the case then do the Hawks receive the same animosity?
I dont think so.
Maybe a crap free agent compensation for Budwa. It was by the rules but woeful and imadequate and a slap across the beak. And didnt theAFL enjoy it.
But through all the Clarko and rscism and other issues it doesnt seem that city hall seethes in vitriol at glenferrie.
Theyve won plenty of flags... so it cant just be because we are successful
Yeah, but funny how Geelong could have a dynasty and not get shafted for their trouble.
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