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Revenue grabbers
- Thread starter Rosy
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meltiger said:
the 10% tolerance arguement is valid though
first of all you mention earlier that drivers knowing their speedos may be out by 10% should drive few kays slower. what happens when a driver thinks he/she is going 57 but because of the inaccuracy of the speedo in actual fact in going 63 and gets nabbed by a speed camera.
here are the facts
we are told the speed limit is 60, we dont trust our speedo so travel at an indicated 57, our speedo is inaccurate to 10% (but still within the law) and we are infact travelling at 63, we get caught "speeding" at 63 in a 60 zone and are fined $135 and 3 points.
THAT IS NOT POLICING FOR REDUCING THE ROAD TOLLS AND TO SAVE LIVES. THAT IS REVENUE RAISING AND NOTHING ELSE. IF YOU CANT SEE THAT THEN GET IN YOUR VOLVO STATION WAGON AND DRIVE OF A CLIFF, BE CAREFUL NOT TO SPEED
An interstate truck driver relative of mine told me about open highway speeding -
He said Victoria is the worst as they have little or no tolerence there for speeding - he sticks bang on the speed limit whilst there - NSW the coppers allow about 9 klm/hour over the 100 klm/h speed limit for trucks - same for cars about 9 over - Queensland roads are too dangerous to speed on - rarely goes to SA and never to the West.
He has a very simple theory on speed cameras -
Don't go over the speed limit and they will not worry you!
He said Victoria is the worst as they have little or no tolerence there for speeding - he sticks bang on the speed limit whilst there - NSW the coppers allow about 9 klm/hour over the 100 klm/h speed limit for trucks - same for cars about 9 over - Queensland roads are too dangerous to speed on - rarely goes to SA and never to the West.
He has a very simple theory on speed cameras -
Don't go over the speed limit and they will not worry you!
yes i would rather deal with a police person then those camera jobsLegends of 1980 said:
[sort of what i said in my first post] as they will give you a little more leeway and agree that some cameras were faulty
thou i am dubious on some claims for some reason
depends i think some people may have been speeding anyway but not by how much the camera said as i have travelled thoses roads all through that time kept to 100 and no fine so there is my thinking any way .
And more people will die. Lifting the tolerance will mean people will think they can go just that little bit faster.
The number of idiots who have passed me recently beggars belief....and I'm talking about in 70k and 80k zones....and past schools.
I used to be a leadfoot too, till I lost someone close to me. Now I make sure I sit on the limit.
What price do you put on a human life?
The number of idiots who have passed me recently beggars belief....and I'm talking about in 70k and 80k zones....and past schools.
I used to be a leadfoot too, till I lost someone close to me. Now I make sure I sit on the limit.
What price do you put on a human life?
Anduril said:
lifting the tolerance to bring it in line with adr standards for car speedos makes it fair and has nothing to do with anything else other than being reasonable to victorian drivers
i value human life dearly, i also value my demerit points and my hard earned. most people would share my thoughts on these 2 things meaning we are respectful of road laws and thats why the majority of drivers will be happy if these laws are corrected
Anduril said:
That's true.
I had my wife's car, a Subaru Outback, on cruise control at 100kph, when going under an overhead speed monitoring device. It said that the car was travelling at 96.
Similarly my other cars have shown about the same when monitored.
there is no set rule though in regards to tolerance levels favouring the driver and the difference in actual to speedo can change both ways depending on tyre wear and air pressure levels among other things so regardless of what you wowsers think is right the tolerance was put in place because of these factors that affect speedo accuracy and governments should respect that becaause it is fair and reasonable
bet you if i had the money they proberly would do nothing as they would be making a lot of money out of them .LidsandBling said:
i still would not vote for them if you paid me a million to do it
Speed cameras revealed
From: AAP
April 24, 2006
VICTORIA Police today revealed the locations of all speed cameras in the state.
A list of all fixed speed cameras and the locations where mobile speed cameras are regularly placed has been posted on the internet, police said.
Victoria Police Assistant Commissioner for Traffic, Noel Ashby, and Police Minister Tim Holding made the announcement which will publicise hundreds of sites.
Mr Ashby said police were prepared to take any reasonable measure needed in order to slow motorists down on Victorian roads to reduce the road toll.
"On the one hand this is about ensuring Victoria Police is open and transparent with the Victorian community, while on the other we are prepared to do whatever it takes to stop people killing themselves and others on the roads," he said.
"If just one motorist logs onto the internet, takes a mental note of a speed camera location and makes the choice to slow down: that's potentially one life saved."
The speed-camera program has been credited, in part, with a dramatic reduction in Victoria's road toll since 1990.
But a series of legislative changes, including the use of hidden, fixed cameras and reduction of speed tolerances before police issue speeding fines, have been unpopular with motorists
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18910236-26619,00.html
the link for the speed camera locations is posted above
From: AAP
April 24, 2006
VICTORIA Police today revealed the locations of all speed cameras in the state.
A list of all fixed speed cameras and the locations where mobile speed cameras are regularly placed has been posted on the internet, police said.
Victoria Police Assistant Commissioner for Traffic, Noel Ashby, and Police Minister Tim Holding made the announcement which will publicise hundreds of sites.
Mr Ashby said police were prepared to take any reasonable measure needed in order to slow motorists down on Victorian roads to reduce the road toll.
"On the one hand this is about ensuring Victoria Police is open and transparent with the Victorian community, while on the other we are prepared to do whatever it takes to stop people killing themselves and others on the roads," he said.
"If just one motorist logs onto the internet, takes a mental note of a speed camera location and makes the choice to slow down: that's potentially one life saved."
The speed-camera program has been credited, in part, with a dramatic reduction in Victoria's road toll since 1990.
But a series of legislative changes, including the use of hidden, fixed cameras and reduction of speed tolerances before police issue speeding fines, have been unpopular with motorists
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18910236-26619,00.html
the link for the speed camera locations is posted above
Tigers of Old said:
did they not, no less than 2 weeks ago say that it would never give away locations and use their regular throw away line that it would encourage people to speed?
weak government and a shocking about face
I tried to get on the website they gave - no go. Heard on the news tonight that they also tried and didn't get on either.
I heard that the site crashed. Couldn't handle the volume of hits.Jools said:
There wouldn't be an election due this year would there? ;DLidsandBling said:
Never!! ;D ;D ;DLidsandBling said:they wouldn't use political strategies like that would they?
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