What's Dusty worth?

[Number8]

With the break in the season, many of us have been revisiting the old matches and deepening our appreciation for Dusty’s genius (if that’s possible).

A lot of trades in recent years have overvalued the player, in my opinion. But given that's the context we have to work with, what's Dusty worth in comparison?

A factor to consider is his age (28). But against that is undeniable match winning ability and preparation standards that I suspect would make most AFL players blush.

Some recent trades…

• Adam Treloar + GWS Pick #28 (2015) for Collingwood Picks #7 and #65 (2015) and Pick #8 (2016)
• Joe Daniher offer by Sydney Pick #5 and Pick #25 (2019); Essendon refused and requested Pick #5 and Pick #9 (2019) — that is if Sydney could have secured Pick #9 from Carlton in the unrealised Tom Papley trade
• Taylor Adams straight swap for premiership player Heath Shaw
• Dayne Beams + Brisbane Picks #41 and #44 (2018) for Collingwood Picks #18 and #56 (2018) plus Pick #18 (2019)
• Lachie Neale + Fremantle Pick #30 (2018) for Brisbane Picks #6, #19 and #55 (2018)
• Devon Smith + GWS Picks #24 (2017) and Pick #38 (2018) for Essendon Picks #11 and third rounder (2018)
• Dylan Shiel + GWS Pick #42 (2019) for Essendon Pick #9 (2018) and Pick #14 (2019)
• Dion Prestia + Pick #24 (2016) for Richmond Pick #6 (2016) and Pick #38 (2017)
• Tim Kelly + Pick #52 via pick swap with Essendon (2019) and third rounder (2020) for West Coast Picks 14, 24, 37 (2019) and first rounder (2020)

For my money, Kelly is the only one on this list who is Dusty's sphere of greatness so the conversation must start at two top-end first rounders.

 

[bigwow]

You just would not contemplate it.

 

[Baloo]

When you look back at 2004 when we had 4 x 1st rounders and how they turned out, I'd say Dusty's worth is incalculable

 

[cagedtiger]

Proven big game match winner. At his peak. Premierships come with him. First ever 1st round 3 picks.

 

[zippadeee]

If the AFL was the Premier League.
He would be the highest paid player, by a country mile.
His transfer would command a fee over £100 million.
Going back to the AFL,
He would be a direct swap for Fyfe or Bomtellelly.
Or
He would be worth at least 2 top 10 picks.
Or
90% of Carlton's list.

Collingwood have done some beauties, 2 first rounders for Treloar.
An upgraded version of Matty White.
Giving away 2 first rounders for Beams is sackable.
2nd rounder for Murray, unbelievable

 

[zippadeee]

When you look back at 2004 when we had 4 x 1st rounders and how they turned out, I'd say Dusty's worth is incalculable

Thats almost 20 years ago.
The top 20 these days, alongside decent development the kids are usually good.
Martin is a one in a generation footballer.
His value could be 4 first rounders today.
Saying that, they can all keep there picks.

 

[TigerPort]

Martin has 7 or 8 years left in him. He will eventually do what Matthews did and play forward 100% of the time

Would not trade him for anything.

 

[Gazmatron]

Collingwood have done some beauties, 2 first rounders for Treloar.
An upgraded version of Matty White.
Giving away 2 first rounders for Beams is sackable.
2nd rounder for Murray, unbelievable

. Zips I would also argue that Shaw's contribution to GWS is greater than Adams"

 

[yandb]

Dusty would be the highest valued player in the AFL, his value would be higher than Judd who commanded the equivalent of pick 3 and 19 and Kennedy from memory .

Kennedy was a pick 6 selection which makes the deal picks 3 ,6 and 19

Dusty's ability to dominate in finals puts him above Judd and by the time he retires will probably surpass Lethal as the greatest player in modern times.

Picks 1 and 2 would be a minimum starting point with a pick in the mid teens as a sweetener..

Having said that I want Dusty to be a Richmond player for life.

 

[zippadeee]

. Zips I would also argue that Shaw's contribution to GWS is greater than Adams"

Adams is on the same line as Shaw.
Massive butcher with the ball.
Highlighted in the 2018 Grand final, when he bubbled a short pass that was intercepted by Yeo.
And he stood there as the runner copped the blame.
Ive watched it many times, it was a typical Adams crap kick.

 

[zippadeee]

Dusty would be the highest valued player in the AFL, his value would be higher than Judd who commanded the equivalent of pick 3 and 19 and Kennedy from memory .

Kennedy was a pick 6 selection which makes the deal picks 3 ,6 and 19

Dusty's ability to dominate in finals puts him above Judd and by the time he retires will probably surpass Lethal as the greatest player in modern times.

Picks 1 and 2 would be a minimum starting point with a pick in the mid teens as a sweetener..

Having said that I want Dusty to be a Richmond player for life.

Bingo.
I wouldn't trade him at 35 for 3 first rounders

 

[ToraToraTora]

IF he came to us and said I want out, and we were able to trade.....A FREAKING LOT!!

 

[Ripplestick]

I can't take this poll seriously without a cheese sandwich option.

 

[BrisTiger24]

Brad Ottens was worth 2 first round picks. Which sounds really good. Until you draft Adam Pattison and Danny Meyer.

 

[Number8]

I can't take this poll seriously without a cheese sandwich option.

Sorted!

 

[Number8]

I don't think you can really compare trades because there are so many factors at play.

If we traded him tomorrow it would probably be for two first rounders because that's about all anyone could realistically give up for one player.

Fair point. There are limits on how many picks you can trade away so more than two first rounders is probably not even allowed.

For mine, a more reasonable prospect would be a trade of players that is based on each clubs' situation.

For example, if the Tigers were in rebuild mode (shudder) take a chance on a young but emerging star of the game, and trade with a club in the premiership window.

Jeez, I do feel dirty even contemplating a Dusty trade.

I guess what I'm actually trying to establish is what Dusty is worth given some players who are clearly a rung or two behind him have been traded for two first rounders.

Surely it makes Dusty's trade value incalculable...

 

[tigersnake]

Yeah like BR says, too many what ifs. BUT, IF, for arguments sake, Dusty fell madly in love with someone from Perth and wanted a trade there, ah la Judd, 2 top 10 picks and a genuine young gun player. (You could get more if we weren't over a barrel by having to trade).

Apart from a scenario like that, right now, he is priceless, untoucheable.

 

[TrialByVideo]

• Dylan Shiel + GWS Pick #42 (2019) for Essendon Pick #9 (2018) and Pick #14 (2019)

Some of Dodoro's best work right there!

BTW Can't we have that old Mastercard ad as an option @Number8 ? ..... Priceless!

 

[Number8]

Some of Dodoro's best work right there!

BTW Can't we have that old Mastercard ad as an option @Number8 ? ..... Priceless!

Done, @aoc1974 !

Looking back at the Dev Smith trade, I think the Bombers came out of that OK but the Shiel trade was very, very poor.

To then back that up with the Daniher/Fantasia shemozzles just beggars belief!

Have the sense that club will be mediocre for a very long time.

 

[DavidSSS]

What's Dusty worth?

He's worth putting on the football ground in a Richmond jumper each and every week.

It's like when I get asked what my house is worth: it is worth living in.

Not for sale, trade or anything else, Dusty is for playing for Richmond.

DS