rosy23 said:
Your friendship and trust is irrelevant to PRE.
It might be to you but it isn’t to me. Why you would even start with that puzzles me. Ignoring it would be better conflict management than being so dismissive towards it. Hes a trusted friend, and trust is a very important value to me, in any part of life, on here included.
rosy23 said:
One of you has been dishonest. PharAce, no matter what he told you, wasn't banned as you posted and he was well aware of that fact. He had a message about the actions taken, ie post moderation warning, and he was actually posting which he obviously couldn't do if banned. He was still free to post.
I may have the timing of the various elements out a bit, but that doesn’t change that from about the time he said ‘Yeah Right’ to Disco in one of RUNVS threads, he has been in the gun of moderated posting or banned. He said he had to wait up to a week for posts to be approved – that’s not freely posting. He was not free to post, so don’t go telling me about dishonesty.
rosy23 said:
You mentioned above that PharAce was a valuable poster and referred to his post count. I'm sure all the mods agree with the former, the latter is totally irrelevant too.
You have history baiting posters and then they disappear with no opportunity to say their case – who will ever know. Not sure the values you talk about apply. Post counts only help to demonstration what a small percentage the problem really is. People might make mistakes but character remains. By saying what you say, you dismiss character completely.
rosy23 said:
Fact is Phar Ace had plenty of opportunity to still be a valuable member of this site and he in effect he chose not to.
Posters can’t choose as you suggest, especially when you have the final say about what they have posted. Once you interpret it as something wrong, that’s it. Phar Ace’s last post is the perfect example. I said to him ‘welcome back mate’ in a general thread, he said ‘thanks mate but still on part privileges here and awaiting the royal pardon’. You’ve decided it was a pot shot yet all it was was a humourous reflection on his current status with PRE. For that he’s kicked out for good! Some choice!
rosy23 said:
He had several digs on various threads about a moderating decision he took umbrage with (it was an edited post having a crack at someone's grammar if I recall correctly)
IIRC it was about Mods saying they would do something that seemed very unlikely to happen. He’s told me about the other time years ago when you shot him for the grammar crack, he’s not on his own on that score is he?
rosy23 said:
He was asked to discontinue that behaviour and he completely ignored the request.
Seeing he refused to abide by the request he was put on moderated posts so he couldn't continue to spam the forum with his digs. He wasn't banned as you suggest and he had a message about the mod request action.
He posted once more and was put on moderated posting as you call it. Most of us here see it as a banning of sorts. Play with all the words you like.
rosy23 said:
All of his posts we were receiving for approval still contained smart alec digs about the moderating so of course weren't approved.
No, not all. A small portion more likely, as I saw posts put up that had been approved. He told me he used some swear words in four or so, believing he was complying with the request by you to not avoid the swear filter but was unaware that the Mods saw it unfiltered. He also mentioned to me that he apologised for that, and that if he had his time again he would act differently at the upset caused.
rosy23 said:
He later apologised and said he didn't agree but would abide by our requests so the mod approval requirement was removed. He changed his profile to contain 2 references to refer to being banned each time he posted so he was banned from posting. The mods gave him fair chance to post as requested and have more to do with their time that put up with that childish kind of behaviour. A complete waste of our time.
Mod approval was never removed apparently. The change to the profile was done long before this he tells me, you simply didn’t notice it for a week or more. He was banned from freely posting still, so the information was correct. That was his status and his profile indicated that, just as you had SIT IN THE CORNER constantly on his profile. If these changes to his profile were a problem to you or the site you should have told him, he did not know, and they are hardly unreasonable when that was his actual status, he could not freely post. If claiming unfair treatment in a very one sided meeting place is childish, thank goodness you don’t run a complaints organisation or conflict resolution. It’s like talking to the hand!
rosy23 said:
Yes Phar Ace was a respected member of this site but he decided his own fate.
He did not - you banned him pure and simple. And for such basic comments as ‘thanks mate but still on part privileges and awaiting the royal pardon’ or words to that effect. You didn’t even give him the courtesy of a response to a couple fairly worded emails he sent seeking the reasons for permanent banning. It is such one way traffic when someone falls out of favour here, as I dare say it has been for the many now missing and may well be with me now. Forget whether he is respected or not, he was a harmless poster. Who did he hurt? Who was offended? I’m tipping no-one. Some things seem easily overlooked for a few, but get others out the door. Sometimes you just seem to want crack peanuts with a sledgehammer.