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Review of Sunday Afternoon.

pahoffm

No one player is bigger than the club.
Mar 24, 2004
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Review of Sunday Afternoon.

Let me say Sunday was a nerve racking day. Usually I'm a fairly introverted person so it didn't come easy, and I really am not a good public speaker. To the person on the website who referred to me as dressed like a beggar, I take great offense to. I dressed in a suit that was only a year old, clean working boots (it was the football), wore a black jumper (it was cold), and was cleanly shaven. Can't help it if I'm not good looking.

Everyone was well behaved. I stood there quietly collecting signatures. I probably spent too much time talking to the press and not enough time collecting signatures. Maybe this prevented me from getting the 100 signatures. At the start of the game we locked all the papers in the car and went off to watch the game. I didn't feel it was right to collect signatures from people just after we'd lost. People would sign in spite and regret it the next morning.

Alot of people spoke to me there are two matters that I was told about that I spent last night debating about whether to repeat them or not, but I've decided to.

1. The first allegation is that the deficit now is no longer at $2million dollars. It has now blown out to $2.5 million, and God help us what it will be by the time effective management steps in. It raises the question about what duties the AFL have as trustees over the competition to allow this situation to occur without stepping in.

2. The other allegation is that Casey has underwritten his own personal position at the club with the Jack Dyer Foundation. If this allegation is true then this means that under Casey's administration the club can lose as much money as up to the founation, and if RFC keels over Casey doesn't lose a cent.

Quite honestly I believe that the AFL are being negligent if they don't step in and investigate what is going on.

The other issues are:

1. The need for assistance in collecting signatures later this week against Carlton. I propose to be located at the stadium end of the footbridge that begins at the top of the escalators leading from Spencer Street station. Game starts at 7.30. I'll start at 5.30. I hope I've explained that clearly.

2. The need to collect signatures from non-Melbourne based members. I shall put the final version of the petition on the website shortly. Those who want to copy and paste this final version onto a page, and print their full name, full address, and memberhip number on the sheet with a signature and date and then fax it to me on +61396464709.

As for the game, well we slowed in the last 10 minutes of the second quarter and allowed Fremantle to get back into the game. In the second half we stopped and they kept on running. We had one big man only (Hall) in the defense, and only one effective big man in attack (Richardson). They had plenty of big men and lots of good hard runners.

I can't believe someone with Rex Hunt's experience and supposed knowledge od football would do a 'fat lady sings' in the second quarter of a game. Especially when we played the same way last week.

David C., I hope your group gets up and overtakes my efforts so that I may go back to obscurity.

Finally, I've observed there has been a couple of new names that have suddenly appeared that do not contribute to other threads but has attacked me. It would seem the website now has some contributors within Casey's circle. I ask all PREnders to be careful about their messages.
 
Thanks for the info Phantom. Wouldn't surprise me if there were a few people out there (media & elsewhere) who are out to get you. Makes one wonder what sort of agenda they're running. Do you have an email address or mobile number that people can contact you on?

Also was wondering if you've tried approaching the likes of Leon Daphne to see if they would be interested in taking on a temporary board role?

Re Rex Hunt. I'm starting to think he's losing it big time. Maybe the fat lady will be singing for him in the near future. He commented earlier that Matthews, Pagan etc would end up with the same win loss ratio as Frawley if they had Richmond's playing list. Really Rex!

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surely getting only 60 odd signatures yesterday was a clear sign that the MAJORITY of the members do not agree with your petition or more to the point the very fact that you have not presented us with any alternatives to the current board.
for whats its worth i hardly see how getting only 100 signatures to force a EGM fully represents the veiws of the vast majority of members.

goodluck anyway.
 
Thanks Phantom aka Michael,

As I've said, I support what you are doing for a whole lot of reasons. I live in brisbane, so I'll be at the Lions game. I always go with a big mob of Tiger fanatic Vic expats, I could possibly collect signatures at the Gabba if needed, send me an email about it.

Tigersnake aka Tony
 
Well done Phantom. You've got the ball rolling and that's the main thing. The sooner this starts happening the better. Some people would prefer to sit on their hands and wait till January for something to happen, when its way too late. If anything your petition will only encourage others to put their hand up, not only the ticket that's being formed.

Also Phantom, these people that are giving you a hard time are the same people that argued for stability and that we were on the right track with Frawley and Casey not to long ago. So I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
 
johnson2richo2003 maybe you should enroll in a comprehension course because you seemed to have skipped the following?

This is what Phantom said...

'I probably spent too much time talking to the press and not enough time collecting signatures. I didn't feel it was right to collect signatures from people just after we'd lost.'

Phantom obviously wasn't going out of his way to chase signatures. It seems like a number of people on this board just like putting him down for the sake of it.

johnson2richo2003, you happy with the way things are going on and off the field at present?

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notorious219 said:
johnson2richo2003 maybe you should enroll in a comprehension course because you seemed to have skipped the following?

This is what Phantom said...

'I probably spent too much time talking to the press and not enough time collecting signatures. I didn't feel it was right to collect signatures from people just after we'd lost.'

Phantom obviously wasn't going out of his way to chase signatures. It seems like a number of people on this board just like putting him down for the sake of it.

johnson2richo2003, you happy with the way things are going on and off the field at present?   

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perhaps notorious you should read what i said.60 signatures isnt hardly a vote of confidence in what he is doing from the members.my point is even more valid as you pointed out what he did in regards to after the match.
no tiger member would be happy with the current situation and have every right too.
like i have asked many times.what are the alternatives?where are they? who are they?
if they come out tommorrow and announce themselves and imo they are a better alternative i.ll sign whatever is needed.
 
I reckon a good alternative would be Mick Malloy for president and Ray Huppatz for coach. Or how about this one, anyone but Casey and Frawley?
 
johnson2richo2003, I'm sure the alternatives are out there. They just haven't revealed themselves, for whatever reason. I wish they'd come out into the open and help take the heat off Phantom.

Do you honestly believe that no one would come forward to fill a temporary power vacuum at the club? To think that is being very naive.

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notorious219 said:
johnson2richo2003, I'm sure the alternatives are out there. They just haven't revealed themselves, for whatever reason. I wish they'd come out into the open and help take the heat off Phantom.

Do you honestly believe that no one would come forward to fill a temporary power vacuum at the club? To think that is being very naive. 

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well they should be the ones putting in a vote of no confidence.and if phantom knows more than us then he is himself is doing a diservice to rest of the membership by not being totally upfront.
 
Congratulations on your efforts and thank you greatly Phantom.

Regarding Johnson2richo..

I havent seen one post since I have been on this forum that you have made that makes sense. You dont have a plan. Your just a sad whinger. Get a life.

When the tigers are run by genuine richmond people elected by the members and not a political ticket, there wont be a richmond fan that will complain.
 
Phantom,

Please dont under estimate the damage that poor on feild results have on this club.

I have said this many times before, Frawley is costing this club more then we Know!

Members like myself believe that if we can get it right on the feild, the bank balance will look after itself.

Frawley is costing us about 5,000 members and countless crowd numbers.
 
tigertime said:
Congratulations on your efforts and thank you greatly Phantom.

Regarding Johnson2richo..

I havent seen one post since I have been on this forum that you have made that makes sense.  You dont have a plan.  Your just a sad whinger.  Get a life.
what your problem twirp?if you unplugged your head out of your ass you would actually notice what my main concerns are.
 
johnson2richo2003 said:
tigertime said:
Congratulations on your efforts and thank you greatly Phantom.

Regarding Johnson2richo..

I havent seen one post since I have been on this forum that you have made that makes sense.  You dont have a plan.  Your just a sad whinger.  Get a life.
what your problem twirp?if you unplugged your head out of your ass you would actually notice what my main concerns are.
Pull your head in tigertime..as has been mentioned on here many times DONT get personel..j2r has an opinion just like you do..
 
What's with all these newbies and their personal attacks on other posters whose views disagree with theirs?

If you can't debate on a reasonable level why don't you try another website more suited to your inane spewings!

j2r raised a perfectly sensible point so there's no need to go on the attack like that.  I'd like an answer to his question, too, or is sense and sensibility too difficult for some of you new guys?
 
thanks for the support BB and roar.i just dont want another situation where the next president ends like another alan bond.
i know phantom like all of us a worried with events both on and off the field.
selecting the right poeple for the presidency and the board is as inportant as finding the right coach.
lets hope we do for the clubs sake.
 
Phantom, while I dont fully support your petition, I give you credit for not going after the game and getting people upset with the result of the game to sign your petition.

You could have easily got you 100 signatures required, but the question would of been were those people signing for the write reason.

I've also heard comments by others that you may have to pay for the cost of calling a EGM, what would you do in that case ?

Is there any chance you'd defer this petition until another ticket becomes public ? In that case I would have no problems signing.

P.S I didnt think you dressed badly.