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Recovery Plan (twentysomethings)

Carter

Carter

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Trade Martin for pick 26
Compo Broad for pick 29
Trade Short for pick 27
Trade Bolton for picks 12 and 23

12, 21, 23, 26, 27, 29

How deep is the draft?

Shoot the lights out with those picks and collect a top five next season.

Yes, very speculative but some creativity is required here.

It is possible.
 
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I find it interesting that we haven't had deals for Braod and K- Mac announced. Their manager talked about getting something done back in mid March, I reckon the club is putting deals for older players on hold until we see how the rest of the year unfolds.

Broad will walk via FA and we get a compo pick if we don't sign anyone, so you won't get a pick there. Same K-Mac.
Short, Vlaustin and Graham for me need to be tabled at trade time.
Martin can serve his time out a one club legend, don't care about output, owes us nothing.
And Bolton, you keep at all costs. Need a game-breaker of the future.
 
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Ladder At The Min
Pick 12 Geelong
Pick 23 Fremantle
Pick 26 Sydney
Pick 27 Bulldogs
Pick 29 Adelaide
 
Scoop said:
I find it interesting that we haven't had deals for Braod and K- Mac announced. Their manager talked about getting something done back in mid March, I reckon the club is putting deals for older players on hold until we see how the rest of the year unfolds.

Broad will walk via FA and we get a compo pick if we don't sign anyone, so you won't get a pick there. Same K-Mac.
Short, Vlaustin and Graham for me need to be tabled at trade time.
Martin can serve his time out a one club legend, don't care about output, owes us nothing.
And Bolton, you keep at all costs. Need a game-breaker of the future.
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Pickett trade also. Had enough.
 
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Scoop said:
I find it interesting that we haven't had deals for Braod and K- Mac announced. Their manager talked about getting something done back in mid March, I reckon the club is putting deals for older players on hold until we see how the rest of the year unfolds.

Broad will walk via FA and we get a compo pick if we don't sign anyone, so you won't get a pick there. Same K-Mac.
Short, Vlaustin and Graham for me need to be tabled at trade time.
Martin can serve his time out a one club legend, don't care about output, owes us nothing.
And Bolton, you keep at all costs. Need a game-breaker of the future.
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Thanks Scooper, amended.
 
On Bolton -

He is a cherry if ever I saw one.

Great in a great team, largely ineffective in a poor one.

To me, he represents an opportunity to launch the next dynasty, but alas won’t be a part of it.
 
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I don't think we will (or should) throw the baby out with the bath water, so a definite no to trading Dusty or Shai.

I'm in the camp that things can change quickly.

I personally don't think we would get anything much back for Broad. He's 30 and I don't think he holds the value outside of our club so has more value to us. I would put Vlastuin on the trade table. We recruited Brown for this role and as we know (as its repeated so much on here) we overlooked JVR so lets get a look at him.

Kmac - I love what he gives us, but is 29. If he is given a better option elsewhere, then we probably get an end of 2nd for him. He's probably 1 that you let go with a heavy heart.

Graham probably gets us a 2nd.

If we were to add Himmelberg as a FA, it starts to right the ship a little bit. Get the balance right in our midfield, as much as I love him, I think we are trying to find a spot for Cotch and its impacting our overall gameplay.

Get Himmelberg in, have our 2nd (mid 20's - I still don't think we will finish bottom 5 like a lot do), a 2nd for Graham, an end of 2nf for Kmac and our 3rd and 4th and target smalls with those later ones.

We might see players like Gibcus, Brown, Banks, Biggie, Bauer etc in our team by the end of the year. I think wit his injuries we might need to wait until next year for Campbell but we could really do with him being fit this year to give a crack in the forward half of the ground.
 
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Scully Trengove Martin said:
Are either of the WA clubs really in a position where picking up an ageing Broad or K-Mac is a good idea?
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I reckon West Coast would, particularly with Kmac. Wings are a hard role to play (and not 1 for kids IMO). They showed their hand with recruiting Hunt last year. I think they would jump at having Kmac and Hunt on the wings whilst they bring in their next group of youngsters.

Broads a bit harder to pick (and why I don't think we would get much for him). Freo has a good defence. West Coast is a maybe but they already have an older defence and not getting games into their younger players, so I'm not sure they'd want to add another to the mix. I reckon Broad stays, but Kmac potentially leaves, especially if we think Banks can step into that role.
 
mrposhman said:
I don't think we will (or should) throw the baby out with the bath water, so a definite no to trading Dusty or Shai.

I'm in the camp that things can change quickly.

I personally don't think we would get anything much back for Broad. He's 30 and I don't think he holds the value outside of our club so has more value to us. I would put Vlastuin on the trade table. We recruited Brown for this role and as we know (as its repeated so much on here) we overlooked JVR so lets get a look at him.

Kmac - I love what he gives us, but is 29. If he is given a better option elsewhere, then we probably get an end of 2nd for him. He's probably 1 that you let go with a heavy heart.

Graham probably gets us a 2nd.

If we were to add Himmelberg as a FA, it starts to right the ship a little bit. Get the balance right in our midfield, as much as I love him, I think we are trying to find a spot for Cotch and its impacting our overall gameplay.

Get Himmelberg in, have our 2nd (mid 20's - I still don't think we will finish bottom 5 like a lot do), a 2nd for Graham, an end of 2nf for Kmac and our 3rd and 4th and target smalls with those later ones.

We might see players like Gibcus, Brown, Banks, Biggie, Bauer etc in our team by the end of the year. I think wit his injuries we might need to wait until next year for Campbell but we could really do with him being fit this year to give a crack in the forward half of the ground.
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If we sign HH (or any FA) we dont get compo for any FAs we lose.
Broad and/or Kmac would be 3rd compos anyway- they arent going to get big contracts and are both old.
 
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Brodders17 said:
If we sign HH (or any FA) we dont get compo for any FAs we lose.
Broad and/or Kmac would be 3rd compos anyway- they arent going to get big contracts and are both old.
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Oh yeah good point. Probably take out the Kmac pick. I don't think we will let Broad leave unless he is adamant he wants to leave and has a club that wants him.
 
As usual we rate the trade currency of our own players way too high.

Short and Shai worked be the only ones with any real value. Shai would be the one to trade if any.
 
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Carter said:
Trade Martin for pick 26
Compo Broad for pick 29
Trade Short for pick 27
Trade Bolton for picks 12 and 23

12, 21, 23, 26, 27, 29

How deep is the draft?

Shoot the lights out with those picks and collect a top five next season.

Yes, very speculative but some creativity is required here.

It is possible.
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going to the draft and building an elite side is a long game
here is our haul from the 2021 draft
I still hold out hopes for all of these , but the reality is they aren't impacting games any time soon

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and in 2020 we took Sampson Ryan(40) and MJR(51)

I'm a strong believer we need to preserve some strength and structure in the side else we become a North

If we get a sense Dusty's hearts not in it or he really needs a change , then so be it , trade away
The WA boys , both the WA teams are likely to be desperate for an injection of senior talent and might pay overs
I wouldn't want to clean out the lot , get thrashed like North and West Coast did on the weekend and heads drop

Then look at bundling any picks from trades with our 2nd round pick and see if we can move up , two picks in the top 10 would be nice
and even then we still have to be prepared to wait 2-3 years for them to impact games
 
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We're to scared to put big names up for trade and we need to now being out of the next 2 first rounds.
 
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