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Silent Bob

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Was listening to SEN a couple of days ago, when Dermot was interviewing Anthony Rocca. Dermot mentioned that Rocca had gone from being huffy and puffy in the second quarter to being able to run the game out. Dermot asked what had turned his fitness around and Rocca replied that Collingwood had a new fitness coach and the old one went to Richmond.

What a joke. Collingwood ditch their fitness coach and who picks him up.......RFC!!!! Go figure.
 
I really question Richmonds fitness......our players overall run significantly less than the top sides and it is a real worry that they all look stuffed at the end of games.

Wasn't Beck a Collonwoood reject also ?
 
Silent Bob said:
Was listening to SEN a couple of days ago, when Dermot was interviewing Anthony Rocca. Dermot mentioned that Rocca had gone from being huffy and puffy in the second quarter to being able to run the game out. Dermot asked what had turned his fitness around and Rocca replied that Collingwood had a new fitness coach and the old one went to Richmond.

What a joke. Collingwood ditch their fitness coach and who picks him up.......RFC!!!! Go figure.

Yep. Heard another Collingwood player mentioned that as well. Said he feels much fitter. Pity they can't win a game.
 
Exactly Harry. We just don't run anywhere near as hard as some of the top teams. I also seriously question the conditioning of our players.
 
it's ironic isn't it....

we get Collingwood's fitness staff advisor (Noel Duncan) they get a former RFC player as theres (David Buttifant)

We get Greg Beck from Collingwood as recruiting manager they get our former recruiting manager in Noel Judkins

We get there former Assistant coach as Senior Coach, they get a former RFC Premiership player as coach.
 
Yeah I agree that our fitness has been a major issue. We need someone who is going to be a lot tougher and get more from our players and that comes from solid training.
 
Dr. Noel Duncan – Executive Director, Founder
• Ph.D. Muscle Physiology, University of Melbourne, 1996
• BSc (Hons), Physiology, University of Melbourne, 1991
• Postdoctoral: Pennsylvania State University, USA, 1996-97
• Fitness, nutrition & rehabilitation coordinator, Collingwood FC (AFL), 1997- 2000, Richmond FC, 2001 – current
• Editorial board member, Journal of Strength & Conditioning Research, 1996 – 2000
• Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist (National Strength & Conditioning Association, USA), Level 2, Strength & Conditioning Coach (Australian Strength & Conditioning Association), Level 1, Olympic Lifting Coach (Australian Strength & Conditioning Association)

Matthew Hornsby
Strength and Conditioning Coach, Richmond Football Club
Strength and Conditioning Assistant, Victorian Bushrangers
• Bachelor of Applied Science in Physical Education, RMIT
• Six year's experience as an AFL Conditioning Coach and Senior Runner (Richmond, Collingwood, Geelong and Port Power football clubs.)
• Occasional lecturer on strength training, RMIT University
• Contributor and past assistant editor, Ultrafit magazine

Kylie Andrew
Sports Dietitian
• Consultant at McKinnon, Albert Park & Olympic Park Sports Medicine Centres
• Consultant Dietitian at the Victorian Institute of Sport
• Dietitian for Cricket Victoria, Richmond Football Club, Gymnastics Victoria and Australian Ballet School
• Vice President of Sports Medicine Australia - Victoria
• Member of Sports Dietitians Australia and Dietitians Association of Australia


This is the basis of out fitness staff including a few others in John Vickery who does boxing and another guy who is a running coach.

Our fitness staff is about as good as you could ask for, and to suggest otherwise is complete crap. :mad:

Maybe the reason we don't run as hard is that the players don't play to sort of game plan.

Also, maybe we don't have many fast players on our list...there's a thought for the day ;)
 
The Boss said:
it's ironic isn't it....

we get Collingwood's fitness staff advisor (Noel Duncan) they get a former RFC player as theres (David Buttifant)

We get Greg Beck from Collingwood as recruiting manager they get our former recruiting manager in Noel Judkins

We get there former Assistant coach as Senior Coach, they get a former RFC Premiership player as coach.
Ironic is being kind the boss.I think moronic would be more apt.Add Balme to that list.Not sure what his role is but he's quite senior isnt he?
 
This talk about our fitness is baloney IMO. The facts don't back it up..if anything we've finished games more strongly than we've started. Were we unfit in the 2nd quarter against Adelaide, but fit again in ther 3rd quarter?

You can't honestly believe that after 5 months of preseason training under the guidance of trained professionals, with maybe 10 sessions per week, running the tan in good times etc etc etc, weights, you name it, that we're not fit? Hawthorn is supposed to be one of the most aerobically fit sides in the comp...but we beat them.
And then someone says that it's a worry that we look stuffed at the end of games!!!! LMAO!!! What would you prefer, that we leave something out there???!!! Of course they should look stuffed, absolutely spent...I'd be furious if they didn't!
 
Rampaging Richo said:
Dr. Noel Duncan – Executive Director, Founder
• Ph.D. Muscle Physiology, University of Melbourne, 1996
• BSc (Hons), Physiology, University of Melbourne, 1991
• Postdoctoral: Pennsylvania State University, USA, 1996-97
• Fitness, nutrition & rehabilitation coordinator, Collingwood FC (AFL), 1997- 2000, Richmond FC, 2001 – current
• Editorial board member, Journal of Strength & Conditioning Research, 1996 – 2000
• Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist (National Strength & Conditioning Association, USA), Level 2, Strength & Conditioning Coach (Australian Strength & Conditioning Association), Level 1, Olympic Lifting Coach (Australian Strength & Conditioning Association)

Matthew Hornsby
Strength and Conditioning Coach, Richmond Football Club
Strength and Conditioning Assistant, Victorian Bushrangers
• Bachelor of Applied Science in Physical Education, RMIT
• Six year's experience as an AFL Conditioning Coach and Senior Runner (Richmond, Collingwood, Geelong and Port Power football clubs.)
• Occasional lecturer on strength training, RMIT University
• Contributor and past assistant editor, Ultrafit magazine

Kylie Andrew
Sports Dietitian
• Consultant at McKinnon, Albert Park & Olympic Park Sports Medicine Centres
• Consultant Dietitian at the Victorian Institute of Sport
• Dietitian for Cricket Victoria, Richmond Football Club, Gymnastics Victoria and Australian Ballet School
• Vice President of Sports Medicine Australia - Victoria
• Member of Sports Dietitians Australia and Dietitians Association of Australia


This is the basis of out fitness staff including a few others in John Vickery who does boxing and another guy who is a running coach.

Our fitness staff is about as good as you could ask for, and to suggest otherwise is complete crap. :mad:

Maybe the reason we don't run as hard is that the players don't play to sort of game plan. 

Also, maybe we don't have many fast players on our list...there's a thought for the day ;)

that's nearly as impressive as Ian campbell's CV.
Sadly, they have all failed.
 
I was recently speaking with a former AFL player who is on the tennis circuit as a fitness trainer.

Even he admits he would struggle at an AFL club due to the amount of science involved in the training and testing of the players.

Make no mistake, when we crap on about a player not being fit enough or needs to do more weights, we wouldn't know where to start in getting these guys bigger or fitter.

AFL footballers have gone way beyond Olympians in terms of the fitness, strength and recovery required to perform on a week to week basis.

It is a science now, so best to employ guys with the knowledge to perform this function.
 
I heard the interview with Anthony Rocca as well & the first thing I though is that their new conditioning staff mustn't be any good as they have looked pretty ordinary so far this year. I really don't think our conditioning staff have a lot to do with our skill error's & game plan. I think this is of much more concern than the fitness of our players.
As they say in the classics "No good looking like Tarzan if you play like Jane".
 
Who cares what Anfuny says, he has been a full time footballer since 1995 and it has taken him 9 seasons to develop any sustained fitness.

Have a look in the mirror Anfuny before you blame someone else for your ordinary physical state.
 
Geez. Those comments about Anthony Shocca are interesting.

Watching the Scumwood v Port Scumelaide game on Sunday, the ball came out of the centre fairly quickly after a bounce. Shocca marked it 20m out from goal and looked like he was gonna' die he was so out of breath. He took an eternity to recover himself well enough to be able to take the kick.

I still reckon that guy is aerobically challenged.
 
Well whats the story then?  Why aren't our players running as hard as say St.kilda were on Saturday night.   Just a bit more food for thought:

I fully realise that the team has trained for 5 months.......but was it the most correct training? 

The CV of Noel Duncan is very impressive, but we want deeds not words.

To suggest that AFL has transcended the Olympics for fitness and reasearch is nonsense. I'm no lover of Grant Thomas but give him his due, his team went to train with former Olympic greats Daly Thompson and Sebastian Coe and look where they are on the ladder now.
 
KB29 said:
Rampaging Richo said:
Dr. Noel Duncan – Executive Director, Founder
• Ph.D. Muscle Physiology, University of Melbourne, 1996
• BSc (Hons), Physiology, University of Melbourne, 1991
• Postdoctoral: Pennsylvania State University, USA, 1996-97
• Fitness, nutrition & rehabilitation coordinator, Collingwood FC (AFL), 1997- 2000, Richmond FC, 2001 – current
• Editorial board member, Journal of Strength & Conditioning Research, 1996 – 2000
• Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist (National Strength & Conditioning Association, USA), Level 2, Strength & Conditioning Coach (Australian Strength & Conditioning Association), Level 1, Olympic Lifting Coach (Australian Strength & Conditioning Association)

Matthew Hornsby
Strength and Conditioning Coach, Richmond Football Club
Strength and Conditioning Assistant, Victorian Bushrangers
• Bachelor of Applied Science in Physical Education, RMIT
• Six year's experience as an AFL Conditioning Coach and Senior Runner (Richmond, Collingwood, Geelong and Port Power football clubs.)
• Occasional lecturer on strength training, RMIT University
• Contributor and past assistant editor, Ultrafit magazine

Kylie Andrew
Sports Dietitian
• Consultant at McKinnon, Albert Park & Olympic Park Sports Medicine Centres
• Consultant Dietitian at the Victorian Institute of Sport
• Dietitian for Cricket Victoria, Richmond Football Club, Gymnastics Victoria and Australian Ballet School
• Vice President of Sports Medicine Australia - Victoria
• Member of Sports Dietitians Australia and Dietitians Association of Australia


This is the basis of out fitness staff including a few others in John Vickery who does boxing and another guy who is a running coach.

Our fitness staff is about as good as you could ask for, and to suggest otherwise is complete crap. :mad:

Maybe the reason we don't run as hard is that the players don't play to sort of game plan. 

Also, maybe we don't have many fast players on our list...there's a thought for the day ;)






ok if they are so good
tell me why when they were at collingwood they had the most injuries of all afl teams
now since they have been at richmond ,we have more than our fair share of injuries,and now collingwoods injuries list has been bugger all in the same time
believe me , they are not as good as you can get
:mad:

Coz the majority of our players are a bunch of soft c**** who stand around with their hands on hips waiting for the easy ball instead of putting their bodies in and doing the hurting.
 
The Boss said:
it's ironic isn't it....

we get Collingwood's fitness staff advisor (Noel Duncan) they get a former RFC player as theres (David Buttifant)

We get Greg Beck from Collingwood as recruiting manager they get our former recruiting manager in Noel Judkins

We get there former Assistant coach as Senior Coach, they get a former RFC Premiership player as coach.



Throw in Balmey and the Clokes while your at it Boss.
Wow! Eddies trying to get some Tigerland spirit onto those dirt birds.
 
KB29 said:
WildTiger said:
KB29 said:
Rampaging Richo said:
Dr. Noel Duncan – Executive Director, Founder
• Ph.D. Muscle Physiology, University of Melbourne, 1996
• BSc (Hons), Physiology, University of Melbourne, 1991
• Postdoctoral: Pennsylvania State University, USA, 1996-97
• Fitness, nutrition & rehabilitation coordinator, Collingwood FC (AFL), 1997- 2000, Richmond FC, 2001 – current
• Editorial board member, Journal of Strength & Conditioning Research, 1996 – 2000
• Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist (National Strength & Conditioning Association, USA), Level 2, Strength & Conditioning Coach (Australian Strength & Conditioning Association), Level 1, Olympic Lifting Coach (Australian Strength & Conditioning Association)

Matthew Hornsby
Strength and Conditioning Coach, Richmond Football Club
Strength and Conditioning Assistant, Victorian Bushrangers
• Bachelor of Applied Science in Physical Education, RMIT
• Six year's experience as an AFL Conditioning Coach and Senior Runner (Richmond, Collingwood, Geelong and Port Power football clubs.)
• Occasional lecturer on strength training, RMIT University
• Contributor and past assistant editor, Ultrafit magazine

Kylie Andrew
Sports Dietitian
• Consultant at McKinnon, Albert Park & Olympic Park Sports Medicine Centres
• Consultant Dietitian at the Victorian Institute of Sport
• Dietitian for Cricket Victoria, Richmond Football Club, Gymnastics Victoria and Australian Ballet School
• Vice President of Sports Medicine Australia - Victoria
• Member of Sports Dietitians Australia and Dietitians Association of Australia


This is the basis of out fitness staff including a few others in John Vickery who does boxing and another guy who is a running coach.

Our fitness staff is about as good as you could ask for, and to suggest otherwise is complete crap. :mad:

Maybe the reason we don't run as hard is that the players don't play to sort of game plan. 

Also, maybe we don't have many fast players on our list...there's a thought for the day ;)






ok if they are so good
tell me why when they were at collingwood they had the most injuries of all afl teams
now since they have been at richmond ,we have more than our fair share of injuries,and now collingwoods injuries list has been bugger all in the same time
believe me , they are not as good as you can get
:mad:

Coz the majority of our players are a bunch of soft c**** who stand around with their hands on hips waiting for the easy ball instead of putting their bodies in and doing the hurting.



if they stand around waiting for the ball as you say, how are they getting hurt?

8 times out of 10 the guy who gets hurt aint the guy who goes in hard, he is the one that injures the others.
 
At first glance I was inclined to agree that our conditioning left much to be desired.

Then I thought of the last couple of seasons and - excluding the times we got really dumped on - there were other times when we were jumped in the 1st Q and then kept up with our opposition for the rest of game. That doesn't sound like conditioning problems to me.
 
Yep, fair call, KB. I was merely commenting on the fact that I don't think we run out of puff.

I think I've mentioned before, well I've read comments anyway, about our injuries and I believe we have had a bad run with them. How much that can be traced back to our staff - I wouldn't know enough about the proceedure to comment whether it was a fault in the team's preparation that contreibuted to those injuries.

Be interesting to compare Richmond's injuries against other teams. Plus the fact that some teams do have amazing runs without injury.

If our depth was better, maybe we wouldn't notice so much.