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Minor Premiers

The McClelland trophy is a drab affair these days, though.

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FWIW I don't even like the term "minor premiers" yet it's starting to be used more commonly.
"Finished on top" says it all as far as I'm concerned.
 
Club should be proud of the achievement, however it means nothing in a weeks time , that’s when the real stuff starts
 
History will show the term “minor premiers” only lingers over clubs who fail to win the premiership.

Port of the early 2000’s were perennial minor premiers.

You don’t want that tag, you need to replace it with a bigger and better tag.
 
A bigger song and dance should be made of finishing first and decent reward. Where you finish after the H&A is a true reflection of the best team of the year. The Finals Series is great but quite often the best team of the year don't win the grand final
 
Baloo said:
A bigger song and dance should be made of finishing first and decent reward. Where you finish after the H&A is a true reflection of the best team of the year. The Finals Series is great but quite often the best team of the year don't win the grand final
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Your statement would hold more truth if the home and away draw meant each team played all the other teams twice in the one season. Once at home the other away.

But because that is not the case currently the lopsided draw can provide a minor premier who has had it easier than some of the other contenders......... sorry to be a nark, champ. But that's the way the draw is.......
 
Yeah. Fair point. The comprised fixture makes it harder to ascertain who is the best. But probably still better than a single game decider.
 
Nobody remembers minor Premiers.
All it means is you have put yourself in the best possible position, with a top 2 finish, to get a home final and a double chance to win a flag.
 
Some interesting and unnerving stats about how the Minor Premiers have fared in the 18 years of the current system.

They are 13-5 in their Qualifying Final (good).
They are 14-4 in making the Grand Final (good).
They are 6-12 in winning the Grand Final (ouch).
The most common path through the finals is to win the Qualifying and Preliminary Finals but lose the Grand Final (7 instances).
Winning the Qualifying Final and then losing the Preliminary Final has only happened once (Freo 2015).
Losing the Qualifying Final but going on to win the Premiership has also only happened once (WCE 2006).
Other than the above, the only other team to lose the Qualifying Final and still reach the Grand Final was Sydney in 2016.

Need to beat the Hawks.
 
23.21.159 said:
Some interesting and unnerving stats about how the Minor Premiers have fared in the 18 years of the current system.

They are 13-5 in their Qualifying Final (good).
They are 14-4 in making the Grand Final (good).
They are 6-12 in winning the Grand Final (ouch).
The most common path through the finals is to win the Qualifying and Preliminary Finals but lose the Grand Final (7 instances).
Winning the Qualifying Final and then losing the Preliminary Final has only happened once (Freo 2015).
Losing the Qualifying Final but going on to win the Premiership has also only happened once (WCE 2006).
Other than the above, the only other team to lose the Qualifying Final and still reach the Grand Final was Sydney in 2016.

Need to beat the Hawks.
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So just under 50% if you make the GF to win it. (6/14) I guess you’d expect more like 8 or 9 out of 14 given that finishing first means you are a little bit better than everyone else. To be a bit nerdy you really need probably 60 to 100 years of results (under the same system including the now new bye week) to draw any kind of conclusion.

You can get 8 blacks in a row on roulette or 10 heads in a row on a coin flip Don’t worry. We are the best team this year. and if we are able to bring our best and get reasonable luck with injuries and umps we will take it out.

100% agree on needing hawks win vs likely PF in WA and tough opponent week before that.
 
Any stats on how many times second place has won it ?

I see first and second as almost the same thing when it comes to advantages / disadvantages
 
In the 18 years of the current system, it's 1st and 2nd 6 each, 3rd 5, 7th 1.
Statistically at least it's pretty much top 3 are equally likely and nothing else.
 
Reckon all these historical stats are fairly irrelevant since the AFL suits changed the comp and introduced a bye week before the finals series starts. Need to run the current system for at least ten years or more before we can pretend to analyse some form of relevant trends.
 
The Hawks also lost the QF in 2015 to West Coast, then went on to beat them in the GF.
 
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