Leaving Neverland.

[Tigerfan]

Amazing doco. Horrible experiences for those kids.
Big lesson for parents is: if superstars meet your kids and want to take them home for sleepovers

.... run ‍‍‍

 

[tigertim]

Amazing doco. Horrible experiences for those kids.
Big lesson for parents is: if superstars meet your kids and want to take them home for sleepovers

.... run ‍‍‍

Unless it’s Dusty....

 

[TigerForce]

I always saw 2 MJs in my life. A bright smiling kid/young man enjoying music from early 70s - mid 80s to an absolute weirdo plastic face from 1987 onwards. Why did he change to that ugly white plastic face virtually degrading his own race??

https://spinditty.com/artists-bands/The-Changing-Face-of-Michael-Jackson

 

[tigertim]

I always saw 2 MJs in my life. A bright smiling kid/young man enjoying music from early 70s - mid 80s to an absolute weirdo plastic face from 1987 onwards. Why did he change to that ugly white plastic face virtually degrading his own race??

https://spinditty.com/artists-bands/The-Changing-Face-of-Michael-Jackson

It’s just natural evolution of a face, seen it before a dozen times.

 

[Tigerfan]

Has anyone seen leaving Neverland?

https://youtu.be/IFjV-6iddrY

https://youtu.be/UrTX8WSCZBs

Warning: contents contain discussion of underage sexual abuse and could cause distress.

 

[tigertim]

Has anyone seen leaving Neverland?

https://youtu.be/IFjV-6iddrY

https://youtu.be/UrTX8WSCZBs

Warning: contents contain discussion of underage sexual abuse and could cause distress.

Saw part 1, pretty disturbing claims from Safechuck and Robson.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Disturbing yes & maybe even true but unlike the Pell case, have any of these claims actually been tried in a court of law? Jackson died 10 years ago.

 

[Tigerfan]

Jackson did get charged and went to court but was acquitted.
He used the same guy that got OJ off the hook.

 

[Tigerfan]

There’s no doubt in my mind that wacko was a pedo.

 

[TigerForce]

There’s no doubt in my mind that wacko was a pedo.

Holding a baby over the balcony says it all.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Jackson did get charged and went to court but was acquitted.

Correct.

 

[Tigerfan]

Correct.

Yeah I know

 

[Willo]

Jackson did get charged and went to court but was acquitted.
He used the same guy that got OJ off the hook.

I believe there were some out of court settlements paid by Jackson to some alleged victims

 

[tigerdell]

Out of court settlement reported to be 25million or so.
And then one case dismissed when another victim not in the case sidedwith jackson. And has since recanted it (and appeared in the neverland doco.) Typically grooming/delusional support by a child victim.
Too much smoke, too many instances, too much odd behaviours.... sleeping in the same bed with children, always different children.
One court case doesnt exonerate him.
Its jimmy saville. But this time with million$ of ongoing income to protect

 

[glantone]

...wonder to what depth people who enjoyed MJ's music are grappling with this in the sense that do they still love his music, see it diminished in some way or simply binned it? Is it possible to still love the music despite the man?

 

[TigerForce]

...wonder to what depth people who enjoyed MJ's music are grappling with this in the sense that do they still love his music, see it diminished in some way or simply binned it? Is it possible to still love the music despite the man?

I only love his music from the 'pre-weirdo Mickey Mouse face' years.

 

[glantone]

..as a follow up to that as a teenager I loved Gary Glitter and the Glitter band. And if I ever heard a song of his on the radio during the following decades I'd always smile. Once he was busted for pedophilia in Asia in a instant his entire musical resume was for me musica non grata. Mind you he was never as influential as Michael Jackson.

 

[glantone]

I only love his music from the 'pre-weirdo Mickey Mouse face' years.

I liked his weirdo Micky Mouse face years if only for the material it provided south park.

 

[Tigerfan]

...wonder to what depth people who enjoyed MJ's music are grappling with this in the sense that do they still love his music, see it diminished in some way or simply binned it? Is it possible to still love the music despite the man?

I like that black and white song, it’s a toe tapper.
It’s not on my play list though.

 

[IanG]

...wonder to what depth people who enjoyed MJ's music are grappling with this in the sense that do they still love his music, see it diminished in some way or simply binned it? Is it possible to still love the music despite the man?

A lot of them are in denial and are attacking the doco on social media and anyone who supports it.