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Hands only CPR

Rosy

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Mar 27, 2003
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Thought this was pretty important to share. Traditional CPR can seem confusing and overwhelming. This hands only method simplifies it and makes it far more likely to come to mind in an emergency. Might just save someone's life.

[youtube=560,315]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILxjxfB4zNk[/youtube]

Edit- Of course in Australia the number to call is 000 not 999 as in the Pommy clip.
 
Tiny S Tiger said:
DRABC is now R and C?

Sounds really simplified doesn't it. Interested to know craigybabes' opinion. I'm sure DRABC would be best but the method in the clip is being taught here as well now. I guess it caters for people, and I'll put my hand up here, who'd be hesitant to perform CPR because what to do didn't come automatically to them. I'd struggle to remember how many compressions and when to check breathing etc. It's a pity CPR isn't taught, and reinforced, in our school system.

Just for reference

drabc.jpg
 
Yep I'd imagine so. It's a very simplified process because people were getting confused and not doing anything. As a result, no CPR meant no chance of recovery even if there had been the possibility.
 
It's actually now DRSABCD

D - Danger
R- Response
S - Send for help
A - Airways
B - Breathing
C - Compressions
D - Defib
 
Yep that's in an ideal situation but it's no wonder it seems too daunting for some non-medicos to attempt CPR. It was still DRABC when I did a course at our local ambulance station a year or two ago. Most of us don't have a defibrillator in our personal first aid kits. The system evolves but that can make it harder for the lay person to call to mind in an emergency situation. This simplified option obviously isn't the best option but I think the message is that it's better than doing nothing.
 
rosy23 said:
Yep that's in an ideal situation but it's no wonder it seems too daunting for some non-medicos to attempt CPR. It was still DRABC when I did a course at our local ambulance station a year or two ago. Most of us don't have a defibrillator in our personal first aid kits. The system evolves but that can make it harder for the lay person to call to mind in an emergency situation. This simplified option obviously isn't the best option but I think the message is that it's better than doing nothing.

I agree with you Rosy. Also agree that it should be taught in schools. Just some basic knowledge that could one day save a life.
It's not for everyone, but just think, if you gave up a couple of hours of your time to get the basics it could be a family member or friend (let alone a stranger) that you could be in a position to give the ultimate gift to.
 
Yes its been changed again

D angers - critical for patient and rescuer safety

R esponse

S end for help

A irway

B reathing

C irculation

D efibrillation



Everyone should know this and its easy to keep simple

Simple fact is just start compressions after you have identified that it is safe to touch the patient, and they are not breathing or do NOT have a pulse.

Always check the carotid pulse, patients who may have had a vagal fainting episode or a heart rythym disturbance may not have a strong enough blood pressure or pulse to feel at the wrist.

If they are breathing then into recovery position.

If non breathing and no pulse just start jumping up and down to a third depth of the chest at a rate over 100 per minute, no All Saints or ER CPR gentle massage will do nothing you really gotta compress the hear and force that circulation. If you feel or hear ribs breaking bad luck keep going its off putting but you MUST keep going.

The patients blood stream and lungs will be saturated with oxygenated blood initially so compressions are what counts, that will circulate that oxygen around the body, mouth to mouth is not required especially on a stranger who may have a soiled airway. The force of compressions will also decrease the pressure in the lungs and chest to a pressure lower than atmospheric pressure outside the body and will in fact enable some passive respiration very minimal mind you.

Us guys will sort the rest when we get there, good compressions will save a life, they buy the CRITICAL 5-10 minutes it takes us to get there and do the radical stuff which never takes precedence over CPR unless defibrillating IV drugs anti arrythmics, iv fluids and breathing tubes, airway management and oxygenation are all done whilst maintaining strong CPR and its bloody hard work.

After 12 minutes no cpr will leave in nearly all cases a pt with brain damage if we actually get them back.

Great idea for a post Aunty Rosalita.

Ive been fortunate to have patients walk from hospital a week after bringing them back and its a good feeling to see them and their families response but ive also had to let many go and not even commence resus due to early CPR not being provided when it couldve been.

When its real its bloody scary for those who dont do it.

Once again great post and initiative aunty Rosy - As long as its safe and you realise CPR is needed just jump in and start. NO MOUTH TO MOUTH REQUIRED !!!

As for the ratios and counting youll never see Paramedics counting its simply is hard and fast over a 100 and keep going till someone tells you to stop or someone helps you and you swap which is ideal ya gotta get those compressions over a 100 a minute
 
craig said:
As long as its safe and you realise CPR is needed just jump in and start. NO MOUTH TO MOUTH REQUIRED !!!

As for the ratios and counting youll never see Paramedics counting its simply is hard and fast over a 100 and keep going till someone tells you to stop or someone helps you and you swap which is ideal ya gotta get those compressions over a 100 a minute

Thanks for your detailed reply craigybabes. I reckon the above bit is super important. Simplifies it heaps so those who'd waste valuable minutes trying to work it all out, or worse still just turn the other way, might be more prepared to try and save a life. CPR could easily be put in the too hard, or I'll get around to it one day, basket for many of us. Fingers crossed we'll never need to put it to the test but if we at least absorb the above info we should be better equipped if we ever come across someone in need of help.
 
Make no mistake proper CPR is a very quick way of finding out how unfit you are you always feel it the next day its damn hard work.

Good thread Aunty Rosmerta.

Any more questions i'll gladly answer in as normal speak as possible.
 
Thanks craig, have always wondered if you should be counting, stopping etc. This simplifies it, fell more capable of assisting now just having read this. Press hard and go fast, easy to remember.

A question, where exactly on the chest should you be compressing? About nipple height and dead centre?
 
Excellent post. Thanks Craig for your input. Amazingly, I've had need to use it 3 times now, and am more than happy that I was able to help save one of the persons in need.