Contested marking

[MalenyTiger]

Just looked on Footywire and we are ranked 14th in competition for marks per game. Does anyone know how we compare in contested marking? It seems to me that we would be very low as we so often get out-marked, even our taller players. we really need to lift in this part of our game.

 

[bowden4president]

Just looked on Footywire and we are ranked 14th in competition for marks per game. Does anyone know how we compare in contested marking? It seems to me that we would be very low as we so often get out-marked, even our taller players. we really need to lift in this part of our game.

I've been meaning to make a thread on this topic for a while. Been a massive weakness of ours. I think after Lynch our next best are Dusty and McIntosh. Listening to Hardwick it sounds like he doesn't really care. always talks about bringing the ball to ground for the smalls but its just not working for us atm. Would be handy if someone could clunk a few down the line when there are no options up field. Balta perhaps.

 

[leon]

Have been pointing it out for years! We are a really poor marking team. It is a costly weakness ... for so many reasons. Dimma nd his crew don't rate it, that's obvious, believing the ball is at ground level more and all that matters is the pressure game.

But if the pressure game is counteracted, you're left with very little. Marking is the safest and surest way to transfer the ball and score, ultimately the most efficient and easiest too. Or just keep and control the ball. It stops attacks in their tracks.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

To be expected when we go in so short.

Rd AFLAv RFCAv Rnk
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1 187.8 186.5 4th
2 187.9 185.7 2nd
3 187.9 185.5 1st
4 187.8 185.0 1st
5 187.7 184.9 1st
6 187.8 185.7 1st
7 187.7 184.5 1st
8 187.8 185.5 1st
9 187.9 185.7 1st
10 187.8 185.6 1st
11 187.9 185.8 1st
12 188.2 185.2 1st
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187.8 185.5 1st

 

[leon]

It's such a tiny part of the game now it's almost irrelevant.

Hawthorn lead the comp with 14.2 per game, we are 17th with 9.7.

What? Are you referring to contested marks only? Marking includes all those from the dinky short passes too (or from 10m kicks allowed by the umps for teams playing us). It's a key tactic at crucial times in a game.

 

[MalenyTiger]

Agree that some teams build their game plan around uncontested marking and the stats can be misleading, but I don't think contested marking is irrelevant. Our 17th ranking confirms what I've been seeing and it is concerning. Unless we move the ball really quickly on the spread out of defence we need to have a way of maintaining control when its kicked down the line.

 

[seven]

Makes you wonder if we practice contested possession, marking, kicking under pressure.
We just suck at it game day.

 

[BillyJean17]

Time to sub 1-2 of the small forwards for bigger utilities , I’d favour menadue and even turner ahead of Higgo and butler with others on notice , Pepper the goals get involved or you’re OUT

 

[zgod]

Funny that this has been my annoyance for a few years.
So many teams clunk down the line and we constantly look for a stoppage.

 

[frickenel]

Time to sub 1-2 of the small forwards for bigger utilities , I’d favour menadue and even turner ahead of Higgo and butler with others on notice , Pepper the goals get involved or you’re OUT

Manadue should have come in this week and not GRaham.

That's not a knock on Graham, it's more so because Menadue hadn't done a lot wrong when he went out, he just had to make way when Cotchin came back.

I like Graham, but he's a kid with barely any football in the last 2 months. He should have been given 3 or 4 weeks in the 2nds to get match fitness and then come in with a full head of steam. With Cotchin one week back from a 7 week layoff, ditto Graham, and a raft of kids who are naturally going to struggle to keep the intensity of over 120 minutes, maybe its no surprise our intensity is down.

Graham can play, but the odds were against him this week. He's not naturally quick, so lacking match fitness he looked very slow. He can play the game, You don't beat Sloane on the biggest stage and kick 3 goals if you ain't up to it. But with the depth we have, we don't need to rush him back.

 

[Bill James]

I’m older enough to remember this site moaning that we were playing Griffiths, Riewoldt and Vickery and had no small forwards, Actually that was 2016. TFFT I’m not as old as I thought.

 

[Mr Brightside]

I’d expect our contested marking is down when our 2 best have been out most of the season and our next 2 best have missed a lot of footy

 

[percyms]

Have been pointing it out for years! We are a really poor marking team. It is a costly weakness ... for so many reasons. Dimma nd his crew don't rate it, that's obvious, believing the ball is at ground level more and all that matters is the pressure game.

But if the pressure game is counteracted, you're left with very little. Marking is the safest and surest way to transfer the ball and score, ultimately the most efficient and easiest too. Or just keep and control the ball. It stops attacks in their tracks.

Problem is that when the ball is on the ground we are getting outworked for the ground ball too.... Big problems

 

[123cups]

It's such a tiny part of the game now it's almost irrelevant.

Hawthorn lead the comp with 14.2 per game, we are 17th with 9.7.

Thankfully someone else sees this too.

Intercept marking is valuable marking that leads to goals.
Uncontested marks I50 as a result of a deliberate pass are valuable.

Contested marking is not only irrelevant, but chasing them or setting up hoping to win them will lead to a much more frustrating game that ours. It’s because it’s so easy to defend against, just look at how teams combat Lynch. Most of his goals are from leads, ground balls, or free kicks, just like any tall forward.

 

[tigerman]

We are not going to take too many marks with our misere of midgets.

We have 7 players over 195 cm's, all of the other clubs average 10.

 

[123cups]

We are not going to take too many marks with our misere of midgets.

We have 7 players over 195 cm's, all of the other clubs average 10.

Yep, and this philosophical advantage puts us above more talented lists.

 

[tigerman]

Yep, and this philosophical advantage puts us above more talented lists.

Yes, but nothing stays the same, the game changes, has changed.
With a full list to chose from we will be competitive, but i don't think our game style will take us all the way.

 

[graystar1]

Have been pointing it out for years! We are a really poor marking team. It is a costly weakness ... for so many reasons. Dimma nd his crew don't rate it, that's obvious, believing the ball is at ground level more and all that matters is the pressure game.

But if the pressure game is counteracted, you're left with very little. Marking is the safest and surest way to transfer the ball and score, ultimately the most efficient and easiest too. Or just keep and control the ball. It stops attacks in their tracks.

Add to that...Adelaide are a very good high marking team. If in doubt, watch last night's game against GWS.

 

[zippadeee]

Without Looking at stats, I reckon our best contested marking players are stack and Baker.
Pity we just blew a million bucks on a bloke that can only mark on the chest.
Schache would’ve been better

 

[TigerFurious]

Schache would’ve been better

There it is kids. The dumbest thing ever written on the internet.