Two of them won't be as they are sitting burning in hell right now wondering where their virgins are.gutfull said:To the spineless scum who did this YOU will be caught...
Sintiger said:Two of them won't be as they are sitting burning in hell right now wondering where their virgins are.
martyshire said:The first mistake we make (or rather our media makes) is to name these two suicide bombers and refer to them as terrorists.
They should be treated as nameless henchmen, pawns or maybe even 'victims'. My understanding is suicide bombers usually are impressionable, stupid misfit teenagers with a chip on their shoulder. They get groomed, seduced by BS and find themselves with an opportunity to make a name for themselves.
Surely anyone that is wired that way would LOVE to be remembered as a terrorist, rather than a stupid F*&^ that was conned into doing someone else's dirty work. Let's take away the glorification. Maybe this would stem the flow of young idiots willing to die for their own stupidity.
martyshire said:The first mistake we make (or rather our media makes) is to name these two suicide bombers and refer to them as terrorists.
They should be treated as nameless henchmen, pawns or maybe even 'victims'. My understanding is suicide bombers usually are impressionable, stupid misfit teenagers with a chip on their shoulder. They get groomed, seduced by BS and find themselves with an opportunity to make a name for themselves.
Surely anyone that is wired that way would LOVE to be remembered as a terrorist, rather than a stupid F*&^ that was conned into doing someone else's dirty work. Let's take away the glorification. Maybe this would stem the flow of young idiots willing to die for their own stupidity.
TigerForce said:Spot on marty. It's this over-sensationalised media who keep highlighting the villains.
dusty delivers said:This will eventually stop. Education & female emancipation will see to it. 10-15 years.
i can't really see how. what would constitute support with a law like this?LeeToRainesToRoach said:I'd start by looking at what the bombers and those who control them have in common.
By punishing sympathy for IS as high treason, the threat could be dramatically reduced.
it does has already happened elsewhere https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_female_political_leadersLeeToRainesToRoach said:I keep hearing this line, but female emancipation... in Islam? Richmond will win a thousand flags before that happens.
martyshire said:it does has already happened elsewhere https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_female_political_leaders
martyshire said:i can't really see how. what would constitute support with a law like this?
(edit) *sympathy
LeeToRainesToRoach said:Brussels
Paris
London
Madrid
New York
Collect the set.
It's getting easier to say where Islamic terrorism HASN'T occurred than where it has.Ian4 said:lets not forget Lebanon and turkey in recent times... oh right, they're not western countries so they don't matter.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:Fair enough, but I'm referring to Middle East/north African brands of Islam, where the trouble is.
Ian4 said:lets not forget Lebanon and turkey in recent times... oh right, they're not western countries so they don't matter.
If someone actively supports terrorism, for example, they are funding it or they themselves are high ranking in ISIS and are prepared to train suicide bombers and/or act as suicide bombers themselves, what makes you think the prospect of being charged with high treason would be a dis-incentive. They are fully aware that they are more likely to end up dead than captured anyway.LeeToRainesToRoach said:Voicing support is enough. Out you go. Let it become Australian haram, enshrined in law. If it's OK to throw out bikies according to some character test, it's definitely OK to throw out terrorist sympathisers.
martyshire said:If someone actively supports terrorism, for example, they are funding it or they themselves are high ranking in ISIS and are prepared to train suicide bombers and/or act as suicide bombers themselves, what makes you think the prospect of being charged with high treason would be a dis-incentive. They are fully aware that they are more likely to end up dead than captured anyway.
If you are talking more about people who turn a blind eye to dodgy activities within their community or don't report it to the authorities when they suspect their child might be about to book a flight to the middle east, I agree we need to look at what we can do to stop this, but high treason (i.e. death penalty) for something like this is unrealistic. Even run of the mill murderers get support and benefit-of-the-doubt from their families until they are proven guilty.
We would never know if it was working as the media wouldn't be reporting anythingpoppa x said:The World has wrestled with this problem for decades.
I can remember Munich in 1972, and earlier terror attacks in the 60's in Europe.
The one constant I see is these terror groups rely on publicity.
Every time the media reports these attacks it attracts the crackpots to the terrorists cause.
Without media exposure, these fools wouldn't know the bombings etc. were happening.
So my radical solution is for the World's Media to agree NOT to report on the incidents. It's a big ask, but it won't kill anyone by trying it.
And who knows, over time it may work.