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2012 coaches

zippadeee

zippadeee

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With so many changes in the coaching merry go around, who's going to survive beyond 2012???

Adelaide, Sanderson: has been an assistant for a 1000 years and apparently knows the game. So with that I reckon his ok.
West coast: worsfold: safe
Freo: new Lyon, new boring, grass growing game plan and that god Freo games aren't on too often.
Port: primus: safe, because they can't afford anyone else. *smile* side
Carlton: ratten: death row, dosent make top 4, good nite
Collingwood: anything lower then top 2, they will be calling for this head.
The biggest mistake a club has made in 20 years. Good luck
Essendon: golden boy is safe for another year, but after another poor 2013, he will join the junk heap of sacked coaches. But would they have the balls to axe him???
Footcsray: has too pick up alot of kids and pray they are good
North: is bradshaw brave enough to tell him his not good enough?
I don't think so! Worst coach in the comp
Hawthorn: clarkson is safe now that kennetts gone
Geelong: let's see how good he is when otters, scarlett and Corey are gone
Melbourne: biggest dud coach in afl, Frawley part 2
Sydney: who cares?
Brisbane: voss has destroyed them and now he is just filling in time before someone else gets the job
G.C: McKenna, just keeping the sit warm for a real coach to step in.
Richmond: properly got 50 games before the tribe will start to get very restless.
St.kilda:anyone got 22 weeks free next year???
 
Bit harsh on North scott, very limited resources, average team and got them to 9th, its not like he got his brother's list and guided them to ninth.
 
Are the saints waiting to see if Mick is available or no one wants to coach them?
 
Knighta said:
Bit harsh on North scott, very limited resources, average team and got them to 9th, its not like he got his brother's list and guided them to ninth.
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North were rejected by Buckley, Longmire and then Hardwick they appointed Scott before they could be made to look foolish again. Scott would want to get them into the finals next year to survive.
 
zippadeee said:
With so many changes in the coaching merry go around, who's going to survive beyond 2012???

Adelaide, Sanderson: has been an assistant for a 1000 years and apparently knows the game. So with that I reckon his ok.
West coast: worsfold: safe
Freo: new Lyon, new boring, grass growing game plan and that god Freo games aren't on too often.
Port: primus: safe, because they can't afford anyone else. sh!t side
Carlton: ratten: death row, dosent make top 4, good nite
Collingwood: anything lower then top 2, they will be calling for this head.
The biggest mistake a club has made in 20 years. Good luck
Essendon: golden boy is safe for another year, but after another poor 2013, he will join the junk heap of sacked coaches. But would they have the balls to axe him???
Footcsray: has too pick up alot of kids and pray they are good
North: is bradshaw brave enough to tell him his not good enough?
I don't think so! Worst coach in the comp
Hawthorn: clarkson is safe now that kennetts gone
Geelong: let's see how good he is when otters, scarlett and Corey are gone
Melbourne: biggest dud coach in afl, Frawley part 2
Sydney: who cares?
Brisbane: voss has destroyed them and now he is just filling in time before someone else gets the job
G.C: McKenna, just keeping the sit warm for a real coach to step in.
Richmond: properly got 50 games before the tribe will start to get very restless.
St.kilda:anyone got 22 weeks free next year???
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Wrong on Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, North, Hawthorn, Geelong, Melbourne and Richmond. That's half the comp - not bad.

Carlton are on the improve. Whilst some Carlton supporters don't like Ratten, the players seem to like him. In ths day of more and more assistant coaches, the senior coach does not have to be the main strategist.

Collingwood can have a few bad years and they will still pander to the golden boy. They've made a rod for their own backs, watch them wear it.

James Hird is smart enough to know when his impact at healing the club loses effect. When that happens watch him walk, he won't wait until he is pushed. His appointment was a political one. Personally, I don't reckon Bomber Thompson is a coaches backside (Gellong's performance this year adds weight to my arguement) so I hope he inherits the job. This club reminds me more and more of Richmond 20 years ago, unable to accept an era has finished and looking to get back without starting from scratch.

James Bradshaw should ask himself whether his ego trip is over and hand the batton to someone better equipped to run that club. The coach will prove to be a good one. The club - a basket case.

Jeff Kennett or not, Clarkson has proven to be a very good coach. If the Hawks for whatever reason cut him, he would be snapped up no problem.

You've got to be kidding about Chris Scott!! No further comment!!

Mark Neeld hasn't coached a game yet and you compare him to Frawley? Danny Frawley is exactly what his initials suggest, a Dumb F***! Worst coach ever. Mark Neeld has the ability to structure a coherent sentence from start to finish. He has a vision and a plan. I reckon he will be a very good coach.

And as for Dimma, the foundations have almost been laid. He should start to reap the rewards soon. Just look at the morale amoungst the group, not seen since the Northey years. Heaven won't be able to help us if we cut this bloke.
 
tiger12 said:
Wrong on Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, North, Hawthorn, Geelong, Melbourne and Richmond. That's half the comp - not bad.
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Yep, considering how many new appointments there are, and extended guys (Worsfold, Clarkson, Voss and Ratten), the only one who looks in any real danger would be Primus - who is somehow listed as safe. ::)
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Round 1, 2012 - there will be 9 (possibly 10 depending on St.Kilda) clubs with coaches aged 40 and under for the first time since 1982.
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There you go LTRTR.

TigerForce said:
2012 coaches' age

Ade - Sanderson 37
Bris - Voss 36
Carl - Ratten 40
Coll - Buckley 39
Ess - Hird 39
Fre - Lyon 44
Gee - C Scott 35
GC - McKenna 42
GWS -
Haw - Clarkson 43
Melb - Neeld 40
NM - B Scott 35
Port - Primus 37
Rich - Hardwick 39
StK -
Syd - Longmire 41
WB - McCartney 50
WC - Worsfold 42

So far, 39 is the average age of all coaches next season with McCartney currently the oldest at 50.
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LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Thanks TF, I had Hird's DOB wrong. That makes 10 at 40yo and under, for the first time since the playing coach days of 1934.
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They're (average) is getting younger and I'm getting older. ;D

Besides St Kilda, it looks like McCartney and Sheeds (if he IS GWS) would be the 2 outliers.
 
TigerForce said:
They're (average) is getting younger and I'm getting older. ;D

Besides St Kilda, it looks like McCartney and Sheeds (if he IS GWS) would be the 2 outliers.
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Average age of coaches through 2006-07 was 47. No doubt there's a minor youth revolution occurring. Sheedy at 64 (next year) will seem out of place.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Average age of coaches through 2006-07 was 47. No doubt there's a minor youth revolution occurring. Sheedy at 64 (next year) will seem out of place.
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Yes. There is a reluctance in the AFL to appoint a coach that hasn't done exceptionally well at another club. They only seem to get one shot. Does anyone else think that it may be possible that coaches may learn more from "failure" and thus be better the second (or third) time around. Many of us outside football would swear up and down that we have learnt more from our mistakes than our successes. But clubs are hell bent on appointing untried coaches at the moment.
 
Matiger said:
Yes. There is a reluctance in the AFL to appoint a coach that hasn't done exceptionally well at another club. They only seem to get one shot. Does anyone else think that it may be possible that coaches may learn more from "failure" and thus be better the second (or third) time around. Many of us outside football would swear up and down that we have learnt more from our mistakes than our successes. But clubs are hell bent on appointing untried coaches at the moment.
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I see your point, but what would your thoughts be if Terry or Danny were given the keys again?
 
Matiger said:
Yes. There is a reluctance in the AFL to appoint a coach that hasn't done exceptionally well at another club. They only seem to get one shot. Does anyone else think that it may be possible that coaches may learn more from "failure" and thus be better the second (or third) time around. Many of us outside football would swear up and down that we have learnt more from our mistakes than our successes. But clubs are hell bent on appointing untried coaches at the moment.
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The trend seems to be to appoint young coaches who are 'in the groove' with today's game plans, tactics, AFL rules etc.. rather than hardwired old farts like Sheedy, Malthouse, Wallace, Frawley, Matthews etc...
 
rokin.tiger said:
I see your point, but what would your thoughts be if Terry or Danny were given the keys again?
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LOL. Its not every ex-coach. IMHO Danny was a good guy but was nowhere near the level required to be a senior coach. He simply didnt have the mental capacity. He was also not well supported by a largely incompetent club. Terry seemed to become selfish and didnt have the clubs best interest at heart. He did not want to make tough decisions and was a poor list mangager. FWIW I thought he was a good game-day strategist but he is probably more comfortable and suited to media work.
 
Matiger said:
Yes. There is a reluctance in the AFL to appoint a coach that hasn't done exceptionally well at another club. They only seem to get one shot. Does anyone else think that it may be possible that coaches may learn more from "failure" and thus be better the second (or third) time around. Many of us outside football would swear up and down that we have learnt more from our mistakes than our successes. But clubs are hell bent on appointing untried coaches at the moment.
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Perhaps an unsuccessful coach's credibility takes a hit with the players at his new club?

Only four coaches have won flags at a second club after failing to do so initially. Of those, Blight took Geelong to a number of GF's, Malthouse and the Dogs reached a PF, Walls and Fitzroy a semi. Only Norm Smith (three years at Fitzroy) failed to at least reach the finals.

Harsh it may seem, but there are many more Robert Shaws and Peter Knights than Blights and Malthouses.
 
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