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2009 - Preseason Preview - 8th of 16 - Hawthorn

pahoffm

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The Hawks were very lucky to get the premiership monkey off their backs so early in their premiership window. Most teams play 2,3-4 years of finals to win a premiership, the Hawks did it in the first year of a premiership window.

And what was the Hawks list made up of?
We know:
1. Two excellent goalkicking spearheads, Franklin & Roughead, with a third leading option in Williams.
2. They had at least 8-12 inside midfielders - Hodge, Sewell, Mitchell, Lewis, Ladson, Bateman, Osborne, McGlynn, Tuck, Guerra & the old warhorse Crawford, now retired. Not all got a game on GF day.
3. At least 3 ruckman - Campbell, Taylor, Renouf & Bailey whom they are giving another year to.
4. Two speedy small goalsneaks in Rioli & Stokes, and finally,
5. Half a dozen good quality defenders in Croad, Ellis, Brown, Gilham, Murphy & Birchall.
Add a couple of outside players in Young & Dew, and BANG! you have a premiership team.
Seems simple doesn't it?

Their positional strength for 2009 is as follows:
B Brown (25,177,121,52) Gilham (24,192,53,2) Morton (20,191,8,0)
Guerra (26,182,156,89)
Osborne (26,178,99,52)
HB Ellis (21,187,36,6) Croad (29,190,222,189) Whitecross (19,183,0,0)
Murphy (23,189,30,3) Birchall (21,193,65,7) Kiel# (21,180,0,0)
Sierakowski# (18,187,0,0) Milne# (18,193,0,0) Suckling# (20,183,0,0)
C Young (23,189,64,27) Hodge (24,184,132,91) Savage (18,185,0,0)
Tuck (21,188,9,1) Sewell (25,181,85,12) Shiels (17,183,0,0)
Schoenmakers (18,193,0,0)
HF Roughead (22,193,83,133) Dew (29,183,195,252)
Boyle (25,194,31,39) Williams (25,180,98,226)
Lisle (18,196,0,0) Breust# (18,181,0,0)
Thorp (20,194,1,1) Peterson# (21,183,0,0)
F Walsh# (19,198,0,0) Franklin (22,196,81,238) Rioli (19,177,25,24)
Dowler (21,196,3,2) Stokes# (19,174,9,6)
R Campbell (26,199,102,24) Lewis (22,186,83,27) Mitchell (179,84,133,22)
Taylor (26,200,66,15) Muston (22,189,0,0) Ladson (25,179,99,37)
Renouf (20,200,8,0) Kennedy (20,189,3,0) Bateman (27,175,117,39)
Bailey (22,206,4,0) McGlynn (23,174,28,19)
Lowden (18,204,0,0) Moss# (20,181,1,0)
As you can see, they merely play their excess inside midfielders in outside positions and rotate them constantly.

Not an overly tall list.
Good height, strength & depth in their rucks & key positions, and a couple of tall wingers.
The rest? All very speedy, hard edged, runners who love to kick goals.
Doesn't it remind you of the Tommy Hafey teams of his great era?

Where to for the Hawks in 2009?
Gutfeel tells us, like Richmond in 1967 then 1968, that an early premiership to a team not seasoned by constant finals usually means a hangover season.

Whether this happens or not, the ages of their players clearly indicate that there are more than enough years in their legs to build another great era.
 
You missed one thing Phantom - they had probably the best coach going around in Clarkson.
 
Freezer said:
You missed one thing Phantom - they had probably the best coach going around in Clarkson.

Clarkson is very good, but it is also said that the team makes the coach.
But, Clarkson's had a big influence in team structure.
 
Phantom said:
Clarkson is very good, but it is also said that the team makes the coach.
But, Clarkson's had a big influence in team structure.
dont know why you think they are on the short side phanto. kpfs have plenty of height so do the ruckmen. its only the kpds that are maybe on the short side they could certainly do with another genuine big bodied 192 - 195cm kpd fb. they have 18 players who are 190cm+ with another 4 or 5 who are just a smidgeon under that. i dont think they have a lot of cover in the genuine kpd chf fb areas.
 
the claw said:
dont know why you think they are on the short side phanto. kpfs have plenty of height so do the ruckmen. its only the kpds that are maybe on the short side they could certainly do with another genuine big bodied 192 - 195cm kpd fb. they have 18 players who are 190cm+ with another 4 or 5 who are just a smidgeon under that. i dont think they have a lot of cover in the genuine kpd chf fb areas.

Understand.

But they don't have alot of depth to their kpps, especially in defence.

We know Gilham is struggling with injury, Croad is recovering from his GF injury. This means that they have to drag others into defence.

How will they go if their injuries go through the season?
 
Phantom said:
But, Clarkson's had a big influence in team structure.

Certainly did, right from the beginning.
He's done exceptionally well Clarkson and has admitted that the Hawks are tracking ahead of schedule even if they do have a slightly down season.
Love their forward line for now and well into the future.

Top 4.
 
Phantom said:
Understand.

But they don't have alot of depth to their kpps, especially in defence.

We know Gilham is struggling with injury, Croad is recovering from his GF injury. This means that they have to drag others into defence.

How will they go if their injuries go through the season?

How they would go appears they would miss the finals

Still have a good list though they hould rebound provided they can find a ruckman
 
B: Gibson Gilham Brown
HB: Birchall Schoenmakers Hodge
C: Ellis Mitchell Bateman
HF: Lewis Roughead Rioli
F: Peterson Franklin Osborne
Foll: Taylor, Burgoyne, Sewell
Inter: Guerra, Ladson, Shiels, Renouf
Emerg: Murphy, Muston, Moss