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When did the AFL start hating Richmond?
- Thread starter JoeGee
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T.V. revenue goes straight to the AFL and then gets distributed to the clubs according to varying financial factors. In other words the big clubs get absolute bare minimum for generating by far the most revenue. While the start up or broke clubs get swaddled in cotton wool n carried by the big clubs.
Membership revenue goes straight to the club, less the stadium, promotional, function, membership management etc etc costs. Club's got a 100,000 members ranging from fancy corporate down to couple of game a year plebs or whatever. If as an overall average the club profits $ 50.00 per membership then that's a direct input of $5,000,000 into the clubs coffers.
It’s a weird socialist / capitalist / private equity management rip out the profits construct is the afl.
Is it clear in the clubs Financial Report?
So if the club gets an average of $50 per member how much gets siphoned off each membership?
But say a seasons ticket was $350 and the club gets $50. I rather give the whole an amount of $350 to the club. Each are different of course. But if they want to help pay the umpires wages why they ream us! That’s up to them.
I don’t know the difference in income being an afl member with club support vs just straight club membership is either. How much do the afl thieves get? How much goes back to the club?
The final dividend the afl give is, how much of that is from gate receipts/season ticket holders that were entitled to anyway?
Got no idea what the real figures are it was just a simple example to cogitate around. Clubs gotta pay the grounds for rent at each game and there's always a certain minimum crowd needed to cover that cost, then some members get access to reserve seats n function rooms etc.Is it clear in the clubs Financial Report?
So if the club gets an average of $50 per member how much gets siphoned off each membership?
But say a seasons ticket was $350 and the club gets $50. I rather give the whole an amount of $350 to the club. Each are different of course. But if they want to help pay the umpires wages why they ream us! That’s up to them.
I don’t know the difference in income being an afl member with club support vs just straight club membership is either. How much do the afl thieves get? How much goes back to the club?
The final dividend the afl give is, how much of that is from gate receipts/season ticket holders that were entitled to anyway?
If you're not real interested in attending games than whatever donation you make direct to the club is entirely the clubs income. If you go to games then obviously there's a heap of costs involved that have to get covered by the club before they get any profit from your membership.
The AFL hated surge style footy. As crazy as it sounds, keeping the ball perpetually in motion, hand balling forwards, creating turnovers and surging forward in waves, as exciting as it was for us, was despised by almost everyone else (with a few notable exceptions).
Whilst we didn't create flooding exactly and the Bulldogs won a flag by playing on at every opportunity, once the ball was in our forward line we were setting up behind the footy and locking teams into their own backline so that they couldn't escape. It was exciting for us because it had been 40 years since Richmond teams had been able to dominate games anything like this and thrilling for our fans.
The sleeping giant had awoken.
Remember 2018 ? We finished two games clear and looked like waltzing to a three or four or fivepeat...surge football was almost unstoppable. This was straight out fear of the Tigers. How could you compete against Richmond playing regular football ?! If the Tiges were on, you would spend the match just trying to keep them out.
However for Steve Hocking and Gill Mac and the boffins in at HQ it was a disaster. It was all good at first, the AFL loves a fairly tale (Footscray and Richmond and the Swans winning after decades in the wilderness). But it quickly became apparent that Richmond weren't going away. What kind of football was this ???
They were horrified at the thought that teams against us weren't even able to get out of their own backlines. Do you remember what it was like ?
Scores could become lopsided. Games would become one way, all the way. It frightened the hell out of them that Dimma and our coaches had cracked the code, filled the Tigers team with roleplayers and sacrificial runners, some low on skill, but high on doing something for the team. That got them a game every week. That brought team success not seen for a long time.
Dimma also put two, yep TWO extras behind the ball at the centre bounces and if Richmond won the ball, or won it back, look out ! Suuuuurge !!
Game over.
Add to that a generational player who some believe is in the conversation for the best big game player ever but who despised the media (and why wouldn't he !) and refused to play ball when it came to interviews and marketing. His shyness and (I suspect) a tiny speech impediment meant that he just didn't want to do media. He knew the media were waiting to pounce on any wrong word, any wrong action, however misconstrued that may have been.
Plus the tatts. Plus the bikie Dad. Any wonder Dusty shut up shop. The AFL hated us for closing ranks around him. Peggy, Benny, Dimma, Cotch were his cloak of invisibility. Even now they're still changing the rules about player accessibility. Forcing the players to speak, be available whenever there's a game on. In time it will be called the Dustin Martin rule. (I will always remember Nank blanking BT in the rooms live on Friday night footy. The AFL were seething) !
Furthermore, a small core group of extraordinary top end talent including an unstoppable one man wall at full back, an inspirational skipper with simply outstanding, immovable hair, a couple of big game player gun forwards (one of whom played particularly unsociable football) and some silky smooth mids meant that the Tigers might win the whole bloody thing, every bloody year. Yep, it was a potential disaster in the making. If not for that 2018 prelim and assuming we had the Eagles covered, this team would be the only team in the modern era to win four in a row. Four !
But for the AFL, what's the use having 18 teams if 17 are making up the numbers ? The GWS grand final shellacking was a brutal reminder to HQ that this domination had to be stopped. So...
666 putting a stop to Dimma's two extras, the disgusting stand rule so that Cotch and the boys couldn't be so aggressive on the mark in stopping switch plays and causing turnovers through kicks under pressure, elimination of the goal square and being able to run 30m without bouncing then bomb the ball over the defence to the wing and all the other fudged and contrived rules, most of them practiced in secret down at Kardinia Park away from prying eyes, were then foisted on the competition just before the start of the season as the result.
It's SHocking in its completely ruthless trashing and shamefulness in manufacturing the destruction of long standing rules and traditions that defined our great game. Seemingly designed behind closed doors and with the media complicit, to stop one team that got ahead of the game.
The rest as they say is history and I have zero doubt that the champagne corks are popping in at AFL house now that the Tigers are (seemingly) toothless once again.
These clowns actually think they have saved football. Gillon wants that engraved on his tombstone. SHocking, once his job was done, went back to Corio Bay to bask in his own shadow and receive all the pats on the back. Egged on and backed by Wakeley and the (AFL accredited only) media sycophants ranting about the "state of the game" (meaning the Richmond state of the game) Australian Rules Football is now apparently "better than ever" and healed having been completely and utterly changed into an almost unrecognisable sport. The Australian Netball/Basketball Hybrid League.
It wasn't so much hate, as fear...
...and fear makes people do strange and terrible things.
Whilst we didn't create flooding exactly and the Bulldogs won a flag by playing on at every opportunity, once the ball was in our forward line we were setting up behind the footy and locking teams into their own backline so that they couldn't escape. It was exciting for us because it had been 40 years since Richmond teams had been able to dominate games anything like this and thrilling for our fans.
The sleeping giant had awoken.
Remember 2018 ? We finished two games clear and looked like waltzing to a three or four or fivepeat...surge football was almost unstoppable. This was straight out fear of the Tigers. How could you compete against Richmond playing regular football ?! If the Tiges were on, you would spend the match just trying to keep them out.
However for Steve Hocking and Gill Mac and the boffins in at HQ it was a disaster. It was all good at first, the AFL loves a fairly tale (Footscray and Richmond and the Swans winning after decades in the wilderness). But it quickly became apparent that Richmond weren't going away. What kind of football was this ???
They were horrified at the thought that teams against us weren't even able to get out of their own backlines. Do you remember what it was like ?
Scores could become lopsided. Games would become one way, all the way. It frightened the hell out of them that Dimma and our coaches had cracked the code, filled the Tigers team with roleplayers and sacrificial runners, some low on skill, but high on doing something for the team. That got them a game every week. That brought team success not seen for a long time.
Dimma also put two, yep TWO extras behind the ball at the centre bounces and if Richmond won the ball, or won it back, look out ! Suuuuurge !!
Game over.
Add to that a generational player who some believe is in the conversation for the best big game player ever but who despised the media (and why wouldn't he !) and refused to play ball when it came to interviews and marketing. His shyness and (I suspect) a tiny speech impediment meant that he just didn't want to do media. He knew the media were waiting to pounce on any wrong word, any wrong action, however misconstrued that may have been.
Plus the tatts. Plus the bikie Dad. Any wonder Dusty shut up shop. The AFL hated us for closing ranks around him. Peggy, Benny, Dimma, Cotch were his cloak of invisibility. Even now they're still changing the rules about player accessibility. Forcing the players to speak, be available whenever there's a game on. In time it will be called the Dustin Martin rule. (I will always remember Nank blanking BT in the rooms live on Friday night footy. The AFL were seething) !
Furthermore, a small core group of extraordinary top end talent including an unstoppable one man wall at full back, an inspirational skipper with simply outstanding, immovable hair, a couple of big game player gun forwards (one of whom played particularly unsociable football) and some silky smooth mids meant that the Tigers might win the whole bloody thing, every bloody year. Yep, it was a potential disaster in the making. If not for that 2018 prelim and assuming we had the Eagles covered, this team would be the only team in the modern era to win four in a row. Four !
But for the AFL, what's the use having 18 teams if 17 are making up the numbers ? The GWS grand final shellacking was a brutal reminder to HQ that this domination had to be stopped. So...
666 putting a stop to Dimma's two extras, the disgusting stand rule so that Cotch and the boys couldn't be so aggressive on the mark in stopping switch plays and causing turnovers through kicks under pressure, elimination of the goal square and being able to run 30m without bouncing then bomb the ball over the defence to the wing and all the other fudged and contrived rules, most of them practiced in secret down at Kardinia Park away from prying eyes, were then foisted on the competition just before the start of the season as the result.
It's SHocking in its completely ruthless trashing and shamefulness in manufacturing the destruction of long standing rules and traditions that defined our great game. Seemingly designed behind closed doors and with the media complicit, to stop one team that got ahead of the game.
The rest as they say is history and I have zero doubt that the champagne corks are popping in at AFL house now that the Tigers are (seemingly) toothless once again.
These clowns actually think they have saved football. Gillon wants that engraved on his tombstone. SHocking, once his job was done, went back to Corio Bay to bask in his own shadow and receive all the pats on the back. Egged on and backed by Wakeley and the (AFL accredited only) media sycophants ranting about the "state of the game" (meaning the Richmond state of the game) Australian Rules Football is now apparently "better than ever" and healed having been completely and utterly changed into an almost unrecognisable sport. The Australian Netball/Basketball Hybrid League.
It wasn't so much hate, as fear...
...and fear makes people do strange and terrible things.
All true. Sadly, Dimma went 'into the rooms' to discuss and ask for answers on that fARC issue in 2022 and walked out like a brainwashed zombie.....as we see him now.
Cheers mate. Been wanting to get that out of my system and post it for posterity. Maybe my kids and grandkids will see it one day.
"Geez Grandad, the AwFuL really *smile* Richmond over didn't they" ?
Probably offered him the GC job and the big fat payday that comes with it.
You are going to write to a member of a corrupt, cheating, drug infested organisation to complain about a corrupt, cheating, drug infested organisation? Should go well.
Even channel Rex is now on the Richmond hating theme I saw an ad yesterday afternoon promoting the doggies game on Saturday night and how they were under the pump. No mention whatsoever of who they would be playing not even a logo or clip footage of a Richmond player
Well when you put it that way….. but she’s an Independent, Rebekah Sharkie. She doesn’t have to tread a party line. And there will be a time they want her onside.
I'd add the AFL risks losing spectators to NRL. I've started watching it in recent years and have loved following the Storm.
